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showing up on local has to be removed

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Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-08-12 20:45:02 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


it would make the game much more interesting, it also would be closer to reality


I think this game would be much closer to reality if instead of spaceships and warpgates we had guns and Somalia. Then it would be super close to reality.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-08-12 20:46:02 UTC
Ersahi Kir wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:


it would make the game much more interesting, it also would be closer to reality


I think this game would be much closer to reality if instead of spaceships and warpgates we had guns and Somalia. Then it would be super close to reality.


And also if you could punch sarcastic forumwarriors in the mouth, because damn.

Dodixie > Hek
Sol Kal'orr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-08-12 20:49:43 UTC
yeah old forum rant, just another big shiptoaster's advantage

they all have their whine posts, spam their bad ideas with alts and see who bites.

this awaited me after jumping into GD just minutes ago

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=268662&find=unread

we saw him coming 5 threads ago and were able to prepare

as an expert in spotting troll treads i was able to get through, however forum-warriors would have been an easy target

if I don't make decent posts, i should not show up, it's that simple
Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-08-12 20:52:38 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Christopher AET wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
yea old story, just another big alliances advantage

they all have their intel channels, spam their system with alts and see who is going back and forth

this awaited me after jumping into JU system just hours ago

https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/366231500926091265/photo/1

they have seen me coming 5 jumps ahead and were able to prepare, they did mention it to me in chat

as an expert in passing gatecamps i was able to get through, however newbs would have been an easy target

if you want to have more people roaming around in null this local "intel" channel needs to be removed

if I dont talk in local, i should not show up, its that simple, people still have dscan to see things

everybody against this please start crying below ↓



NO

Just go ahead and block my corp.........nay my alliance


you are too unimportant to get a block, but i still can just ignore you if that suits you


Damn......right in the feels

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2013-08-12 20:55:36 UTC
Sol Kal'orr wrote:
yeah old forum rant, just another big shiptoaster's advantage

they all have their whine posts, spam their bad ideas with alts and see who bites.

this awaited me after jumping into GD just minutes ago

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=268662&find=unread

we saw him coming 5 threads ago and were able to prepare

as an expert in spotting troll treads i was able to get through, however forum-warriors would have been an easy target

if I don't make decent posts, i should not show up, it's that simple


does not add anything to the topic, therefore you are the troll

this is serious, but please go on with your nonsense

blocked o/

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#26 - 2013-08-12 21:05:28 UTC
How does one add to the topic? By agreeing? Yeah that's a great discussion.

Dammit why do I let this loser keep trolling me?

...
jujumagumboo
Goonswarm Protective Services
#27 - 2013-08-12 21:16:09 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
yea old story, just another big alliances advantage

they all have their intel channels, spam their system with alts and see who is going back and forth

this awaited me after jumping into JU system just hours ago

https://twitter.com/geistreiches/status/366231500926091265/photo/1

they have seen me coming 5 jumps ahead and were able to prepare, they did mention it to me in chat

as an expert in passing gatecamps i was able to get through, however newbs would have been an easy target

if you want to have more people roaming around in null this local "intel" channel needs to be removed

if I dont talk in local, i should not show up, its that simple, people still have dscan to see things

everybody against this please start crying below ↓


Stay out of space that doesn't belong to you. Problem solved.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#28 - 2013-08-12 21:22:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Harry Forever wrote:


new players do not even know how to use it, I had to be one month into the game until I realized that this channel shows everybody who is in the system, its totally unimportant for new players

new players can also use the map to see if pilots are in the system, thats much better vs. the local chat that just shows the experienced players that a newb is in the system

The bold part says more about Harry then any amount of shiptoasting ever will.

TL;DR Nope, not appearing in local already exists, it's called a wormhole, or logging off.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#29 - 2013-08-12 21:50:20 UTC
I've been shitpoasting and trolling these forums since 2008 and if I had a dollar for every thread about local I could buy enough plex to fill a kestrel's cargo hold and set a new record for how fast you can be ganked in Jita.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-08-12 22:07:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Actually, would just prefer NO LOCAL whatsoever.

Passive Local (WH's) works fine but is rarely used.

Active Local (everywhere else) is about 99% dead anyway, aside from the odd spammer or cry for help.

The other 1% is Jita, what can you say about JITA and other hubs? Meaningless drek from the plebs, ELIMINATED.

Sure, people love to chat. That's why we have the ability to create channels, and people do it every day.

Sure, people want to look for targets. That's why we have probes and DirScan. Scary, but true, and people use them every day.

And that doesn't even touch on the utils like TS and Vent. Roll


Let the lava flow commence... Twisted

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-08-12 22:25:48 UTC
Removal of local is just a veiled attempt at nerfing afk cloaking, don't fall for it....
Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#32 - 2013-08-12 22:26:23 UTC
Remove local. It is time for effortless perfect intel to die. If you want that level of intel you must work for it. If you catch me jumping through a gate by actually seeing me from your cloaked ship off gate that is fine. Knowing I am there when your alt is perfectly safe inside a station and looking at local is not.

The prey have used the effortless perfect intel provided by local to make nullsec safer than highsec. That violates the "Risk vs. Reward" aspect of nullsec. Literally the only reason to die in nullsec ratting/mining/carebearing is you blatantly ignored your effortless perfect intel source. It is time to remove this advantage from the prey and allow the hunter to instill the fear that has been absent from nullsec back in the prey. If the prey still wishes to pillage the riches of nullsec then they must face the risk involved. Remove local and the risk come back. If you wish to be safer then put the effort in to collecting the necessary intel to be safer. A simple set of eyes cloaked off a gate should be sufficient.

Do not be naive and think local only provides and advantage to the prey. The advantage local provides to the prey is far greater than the advantage provided to the hunter. However, the hunter still benefits from local. How would they know there is prey to kill if not for local? If you remove local then the hunter must adapt also. No longer can they roam through systems instantly knowing it is empty or not. They must put in effort and skill to find prey if it is there at all. This may even make the prey safer as they can use skill instead of an effortless perfect intel source to evade a skilled hunter.

Local is for chat, not intel. Remove the perfect effortless intel aspect from local to restore it to its intended role: chat. This will restore the risk to nulslec and the balance back to the hunter and the prey.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#33 - 2013-08-12 22:28:54 UTC
You do understand the gate camper was being sarcastic?

Also, screenshotting your channel name with the n-word is a good way to get banned. Icelanders tend to be finicky about all that human decency bull ****.
Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#34 - 2013-08-12 22:35:45 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
I had to be one month into the game until I realized that this channel shows everybody who is in the system, its totally unimportant for new players


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Harry Forever wrote:
new players can also use the map to see if pilots are in the system, thats much better vs. the local chat that just shows the experienced players that a newb is in the system


Oh yeah because it is so much more accessible and easy to use to noobs...
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#35 - 2013-08-12 22:39:06 UTC
but harry you said people grouping up to defend their space in 0.0 and gatecamping was a myth -- now we do it and it's too easy?

you really do flip flop all over the place dont you

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Goddess Ishtar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-08-12 22:47:16 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
Also, screenshotting your channel name with the n-word is a good way to get banned.


That's so offensive.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#37 - 2013-08-12 22:56:46 UTC
Goddess Ishtar wrote:
S Byerley wrote:
Also, screenshotting your channel name with the n-word is a good way to get banned.


That's so offensive.


I don't think you understand what's going on here.

Also, YOU CAN'T MAKE ME FLY A DRONE BOAT
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#38 - 2013-08-12 23:05:03 UTC
We've had these posts a million times, if you remove local ppl will demand some new type of scanner because dscan is the most childish, 1970s technology system ever invented for a video game (clicking it every 2 seconds for hours and hours, you call that fun???)

And so if local removed we get this awesome new scanning system by popular demand, and it'll just turn out to be LOCAL under a DIFFERENT NAME, and what a waste of Dev time that will be Roll

Evelopedia; 

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Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#39 - 2013-08-12 23:35:41 UTC
Peter Raptor wrote:
We've had these posts a million times, if you remove local ppl will demand some new type of scanner because dscan is the most childish, 1970s technology system ever invented for a video game (clicking it every 2 seconds for hours and hours, you call that fun???)

And so if local removed we get this awesome new scanning system by popular demand, and it'll just turn out to be LOCAL under a DIFFERENT NAME, and what a waste of Dev time that will be Roll

Flip the flag on the discovery scanner to show ship in addition to anioms. Problem solved. You don't know if it is friendly or enemy. You only know it is there.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#40 - 2013-08-13 00:08:01 UTC
Aliventi wrote:
Peter Raptor wrote:
We've had these posts a million times, if you remove local ppl will demand some new type of scanner because dscan is the most childish, 1970s technology system ever invented for a video game (clicking it every 2 seconds for hours and hours, you call that fun???)

And so if local removed we get this awesome new scanning system by popular demand, and it'll just turn out to be LOCAL under a DIFFERENT NAME, and what a waste of Dev time that will be Roll

Flip the flag on the discovery scanner to show ship in addition to anioms. Problem solved. You don't know if it is friendly or enemy. You only know it is there.


Not keen on still having to spam alt-d opposed to a button (easier to put on a programmable keyboard I guess).