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[Odyssey 1.1] Radial Menu + Drone + few other UI changes

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ChaseTheLasers
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#21 - 2013-08-12 18:55:07 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:


Other Changes:
  • Now possible to drag skills from charactersheet to input fields to create a link


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    Did it used to be like that, or was it in my head?
    Alex Trevalian
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #22 - 2013-08-12 18:57:36 UTC
    I'm unsure if this is easy to do or not, but I get really frustrated when I get podded and try to use the radial menu to quickly warp to a celestial or customs office and the Warp-To location is different. Usually it's at the top of the circle but sometimes not. Can this be made more consistent?
    Nix Anteris
    The Dark Space Initiative
    Scary Wormhole People
    #23 - 2013-08-12 19:00:59 UTC
    CCP karkur wrote:
    Hi all,

  • If the clicking time is very short and the mouse does not move in that time(=radial menu is not used), the click will register as a click (for example to select a target when Radial Menu delay is 0... which is btw not recommendedTwisted)


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    Domanique Altares
    Rifterlings
    #24 - 2013-08-12 19:05:20 UTC
    CCP karkur wrote:
    Domanique Altares wrote:
    CCP karkur wrote:

  • Drones and dronegroups can be dragged from "Drones in Local Space" folder onto "Drones in Bay" folder to be pulled in


    • karkur I love you and this is awesome to play with on SiSi.

    Is it beyond the realm of possibility that one day this could be iterated to simply dragging the group out of the window and 'into space' as it were, instead of having to drop directly on the 'Drones in Local Space' tab?

    :3
    And no... not at all... let me see what I can do Smile
    (but could you do me a favor and think hard about if that could be problematic P)


    I suppose anything might be problematic, especially with a cluttered UI as some of us run them. I imagine there might be hassles that arise with dragging a group of drones into certain windows; I don't know how such a thing is handled internal to the UI.

    The other options to expand upon what you've done would be to give us a 'launch drones' hotkey assignment (along the lines of CTRL+Click targeting. hold they key down, click the group, and out they go, negating the need to indicate a 'default group' or whatever) or to allow us to bring up a radial menu over a drone group, with 'Launch Group' as the default action for a group in bay.
    CCP karkur
    C C P
    C C P Alliance
    #25 - 2013-08-12 19:05:39 UTC
    Alex Trevalian wrote:
    I'm unsure if this is easy to do or not, but I get really frustrated when I get podded and try to use the radial menu to quickly warp to a celestial or customs office and the Warp-To location is different. Usually it's at the top of the circle but sometimes not. Can this be made more consistent?

    What? Warp To to should always be in the same spot(10.30... never at 12 o'clock)... the point is exactly to have it consistent .... could you explain better what you mean?

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    Jaime Gomes
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #26 - 2013-08-12 19:07:15 UTC
    am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.

    During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.

    Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?

    This simple change would be cool.
    MrTiddles
    Lambent Enterprises
    #27 - 2013-08-12 19:08:02 UTC
    Laura Mornie wrote:
    Nice job.

    Like mentioned above, will be very nice to connect the "assist drones" option to the Watch List.
    MrTiddles - there is already a quick way to attack with drones, you can just key-bind it (it will send all active drones to attack your selected target).


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    #28 - 2013-08-12 19:09:03 UTC
    Jaime Gomes wrote:
    am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.

    During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.

    Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?

    This simple change would be cool.
    There were some murmurings about drone changes from Ytterbium. I'm not sure if it was a balancing pass or whether it included UI updates (the former I'd guess, the latter good luck), but it's something to watch out for.

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    CCP karkur
    C C P
    C C P Alliance
    #29 - 2013-08-12 19:10:44 UTC
    Jaime Gomes wrote:
    am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.

    During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.

    Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?

    This simple change would be cool.

    Makes sense to me P Can't promise anything though.
    Just a question... would dragging a drone to a guy in the WL to assign it to them be of any value? (not saying I'll do it, just wondering.

    CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
    Alex Trevalian
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #30 - 2013-08-12 19:17:10 UTC
    CCP karkur wrote:
    Alex Trevalian wrote:
    I'm unsure if this is easy to do or not, but I get really frustrated when I get podded and try to use the radial menu to quickly warp to a celestial or customs office and the Warp-To location is different. Usually it's at the top of the circle but sometimes not. Can this be made more consistent?

    What? Warp To to should always be in the same spot(10.30... never at 12 o'clock)... the point is exactly to have it consistent .... could you explain better what you mean?


    You're right. I always equated the top of the radial menu with "Go to it" because I use it mostly to Dock and Jump. I'll try to adjust my behavior.
    Jaime Gomes
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #31 - 2013-08-12 19:18:29 UTC
    Or left click and drag the folder were drones are deployed and drop on the wl dude we want them assigned.

    If you could manage that would be very very cool. Because due to lag, fps, tidi an entire fleet assigning can be a pain in the ass. Making that easy would be bacon.

    Can't stop. Won't stop the bacon.
    Domanique Altares
    Rifterlings
    #32 - 2013-08-12 19:19:15 UTC
    CCP karkur wrote:

    Just a question... would dragging a drone to a guy in the WL to assign it to them be of any value? (not saying I'll do it, just wondering.


    Personally, I don't know if I could put a price on how awesome it would be to be able to drag-drop a drone or group to assist someone in watchlist.
    Marlona Sky
    State War Academy
    Caldari State
    #33 - 2013-08-12 19:32:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Il Feytid
    CCP karkur wrote:
    Jaime Gomes wrote:
    am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.

    During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.

    Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?

    This simple change would be cool.

    Makes sense to me P Can't promise anything though.
    Just a question... would dragging a drone to a guy in the WL to assign it to them be of any value? (not saying I'll do it, just wondering.

    Dragging a drone, drone folder and the 'Drones in space' to someone on the watch list to assist them would be welcome.

    What about options to change the font, color, size, position and even deciding what we want and do not want on the drop down menus? I do love the radial menu, but improvements to the drop down menus would also be welcome. Also a launch drones hot key.

    Another UI improvement would be the ability to drag and drop boosters to unused module hot key locations on the UI. Forced to have the cargo hold open and fish around to find the boosters is annoying. Who knows what else you could use the slots for. Maybe dragging and dropping your drones on it and presto, the drone hot key to launch we have been wanting for ten years. Blink
    Caellach Marellus
    Stormcrows
    #34 - 2013-08-12 19:37:56 UTC
    Chris Winter wrote:
    All those drone UI changes are nice, but what about a keybinding to launch drones? That's what's really needed.


    While I will continue to forever nag for this...

    I love the new tweaks to the drone UI, especially drag'n'drop launching!



    Edit: Did the attack keybind ever get fixed to also work for mining drones on asteroids and salvage drones on wrecks?

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    #35 - 2013-08-12 19:45:40 UTC
    CCP karkur wrote:

    Makes sense to me P Can't promise anything though.
    Just a question... would dragging a drone to a guy in the WL to assign it to them be of any value? (not saying I'll do it, just wondering.

    Um, YES?

    while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

         _myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

    }
    Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
    Republic Military School
    Minmatar Republic
    #36 - 2013-08-12 20:03:34 UTC
    CCP karkur wrote:
    Jaime Gomes wrote:
    am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.

    During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.

    Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?

    This simple change would be cool.

    Makes sense to me P Can't promise anything though.
    Just a question... would dragging a drone to a guy in the WL to assign it to them be of any value? (not saying I'll do it, just wondering.


    would love very much! Big smile
    Ari Runa
    Garoun Investment Bank
    Gallente Federation
    #37 - 2013-08-12 20:15:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ari Runa
    As a drone pilot these changes make me happy, but I'd still like to see keybinds for drone groups.

    Suggestion: Drag drone groups to module slots to bind their launch to the module hotkey. In the event that you undock with a ship that overlaps previous Drone group binds, the modules take priority and you have to rebind the groups. The module icon will show the most common drone in that drone group, with some special coloring to differentiate between combat and logistics drones.
    Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
    Republic Military School
    Minmatar Republic
    #38 - 2013-08-12 20:17:32 UTC
    CCP karkur wrote:
    Hi all,

    Drone changes:[list]
  • Drones and dronegroups can be dragged from "Drones in Bay" folder onto "Drones in Local Space" folder to be launched
  • Drones and dronegroups can be dragged from "Drones in Local Space" folder onto "Drones in Bay" folder to be pulled in
  • Drones can be dragged into groups (as long as they can be grouped with the ones that are there already)... if the drone and the group you dragged it on are not in the same place, the drone will be launched/picked up and moved to the group


    • ]


    Moving or launching drones through this method is too slow currently. It takes awhile for drones to launch or be recall.

    Also do not if it was intended but it seems for drones or dronegroups to be launch or recall, you have to drag them directly right on top of the folder or else nothing happens. This is the case even though you dragged them inside the corresponding folder..
    Steve Bellator
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #39 - 2013-08-12 20:22:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Bellator
    Great changes, really looking forward to this.

    Don't know if it's been said already or not, but it would also be wonderful if you could add Jump Bridges and Titan/BLOPS bridging to the overview buttons and radial menu.

    It would be especially nice if JBs could react appropriately to the D shortcut.
    Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
    Republic Military School
    Minmatar Republic
    #40 - 2013-08-12 20:23:49 UTC
    Steve Bellator wrote:
    Great changes, really looking forward to this.

    Don't know if it's been said already or not, but it would also be wonderful if you could add Jump Bridges and Titan/BLOPS bridging to the overview buttons and radial menu.


    +1

    This will make life so much easier for newbies and FCs...