Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You take that from where? Your black hole?

We have jump clones) We can be everywhere

Maybe my vision of WiS slightly differs from the stereotypical "Barbies in Space"- but I can give you a compelling reason in a single word:

Fear.


Nowhere should be safe in Eve, danger should be everywhere.
Fear makes people dock up in stations.
Fear makes CEOs tell their corp not to undock during war.

Now fear should drive these people out of the station again- since staying in a confined station full of enemies should be more dangerous than trying to undock and flee into open space or just fight your way out.

But where exactly? And what projection of force? Personal security drones could make someone nearly as safe as now? And what about personal guns, and police forces?

Well, in a perfect world, we'd have.

High Security: No weapons allowed. If you have a grudge you settle it with your fists.
(Opening the prospect of designing everything from basic fisticuffs to racial/cultural martial arts styles.)

Low Security: Only melee weapons and/or concealable side arms allowed, depending on who owns the station.
(Allowing you to indeed bring a knife to a gun fight, and possibly even win. Also making it advantageous to know the law in whatever station you happen to be docking in.)

Null Security: Anything goes. Outposts restrictions would be according to the owners wishes.
(Same as above, however it opens up things like long arms, heavy weapons, combat armor. Again, it pays to know what the local laws are. Also opens the door up for forcibly breaching a station with the intent to take control. Could also be a way for a group to wrest control of caps/super caps from their rightful owners.)

The options are, quite literally, without limit.

So many WiS threads!

It's nice to see. Hopefully CCP will get the idea. Also, +1 for dangerous Avatar environments.

The rating issue is a valid one.

Perhaps when you kill a clone it could simply pop like a soap bubble and instantly transform into a pile of belongings and empty clothing. Sort of like how our spaceships in the brutal space part of the game already do.

I agree, all of EVE needs risk and danger to it, and stations should cease to be the havens of impenetrable safety they are right now. But at the same time, I don't agree that the social platform with meeting rooms, bars and casinos was incompatible with EVE.

Player hangouts, gambling, a place to call your own or do stuff in while it's too dangerous to go outside or whatever, that's all perfectly fine. Surely a friendly low-stakes poker game with your mates during time you'd otherwise spend ship-spinning isn't incompatible with the setting? I don't see how EVE could possible be damaged by providing more opportunities for player interaction, both friendly and otherwise.

Remember, co-operative, friendly gameplay is part of the game too. That's why you need a friend to help grab the scattercans in hacking sites, and why you need fleet members and corpmates and stuff.

I am not saying that social interaction is a bad thing or that there should be no meeting rooms or cantinas.
But Eve is a sandbox, and limiting WiS to peaceful interactions only would completely defy the core concept of the game.

Sorry guys, WIS would not start off preprogrammed like the universe in EVE. Everyone have some kind of WIS in mind. And there is no two identical. Only sandbox and player created WIS can be somehow worth working on now by CCP. Place entity, make rules, execute. Seeing how POS system rework was done, thats impossible too.