EVE General Discussion

Don't think any of the X series or the new Star Citizen or whatever will draw me away from Eve. But I do worry about the loss of potential players. I doubt it will draw people away from Eve, but It might stop potential player who haven't taken the plunge yet.

And yet these same misfits allow themselves to be treated this way by CCP.

How many threads have came and went on this forum concerning walking in stations? Any time one of the longer running threads begins fading, some "new player" creates a new a thread and practically repeats the same tired lines "If CCP would create avatar gaming, then their subs would increase drastically!" Then there is a list of potential ideas on what would be involved; yet if you have followed CCP's stance over the years, these same ideas (black market, drugs, etc.) have been pushed aside and left to die on their own. The old CCP that would have embraced such seedier sides of life are now replaced by a group that is driving the future of the game towards the generally accepted society. So even gambling might be a touchy subject with them and they're stalling to avoid it. I am not sure about the rest of the world, but around here, one must be at least 21 years old to enter the casino. Yet CCP has the game set for a teen rating. Some bad press that Little Junior used mommy's credit card to purchase plex that he lost in a virtual casino within an online game...?

CCP knows that offering a few bread crumbs of potential avatar game play will keep the hardcore walking in stations crowd here, paying their monthly or yearly fee. Really, how many of you - I'm look at you Ishtanchuk - have claimed boldly and loudly that if CCP does not add avatar gaming, then you and your subscriptions are gone? A glimmer of hope, some small fan fest video, and then, "Sorry, priorities changed here at CCP - we might get around to it again "soon"." And all the doom and gloom that without avatar gaming, then Eve is dead arises once more. That is a kicker for me - there is no other ~potential~ ideas that could possibly keep Eve going forward and stronger than _just_ avatar gaming? No avatar equates to no future, yet here is the game looking ahead to another decade with avatar gaming on some distant back burner.

Do not get me wrong - I would love to see some "good" avatar gaming that has relevance to the rest of the Eve universe. But I highly doubt CCP is going to introduce a dark side, much less a "Blade Runner" type atmosphere. The "cold, dark, harsh universe" is no longer here - at least to me. Look at all the changes CCP has introduced to make life easier and all the safety nets and switches so mistakes are avoided instead of pounced upon as in the past. And that is where CCP is running in square circles. Expand to bring in a social media angle and (based upon an online article I read,) people will leave (eventually) in droves similar to how Facebook and that ilk is passe now - a flash in the pan event overall. Or expand to allow the safety of the station to be breached and players will leave in droves because of the constant ganking involved because people rather just socialize with their avatars and nothing more.

So CCP is following the path of least resistance - offer hope that one day avatar gaming might be here, but doing nothing more than that - offering hope.

Just my thoughts, again, on the matter.

I hate to say it, but your probably right. I've been playing for nearing five years now, and I am starting to get bored. Not because of a lack of Avatar content (let's face it, Eve kept me interested for at least 4 years before I started getting bored), but just because every expansion since Crucible has been a little disappointing. Not massively disappointing, just not quite as good as the one before. Each one has expanded on an area of the game that is really only for a small number of people. Inferno was the whole faction warfare thing, which is great but I had already participated in faction warfare and had no intention of going back to try it again. Retribution was a bit of an exception because I loved the bounties thing, just because It could make me a small amount of my ISK back from PvP, but Odyssey was horrendous. A boring bunch of tweaks that didn't really affect me in the slightest, and I've never really enjoyed exploration and the new crap mechanic didn't change that.

But I've already invested too much. I keep telling myself I'll quit if I don't like what they say is going to be in the Winter expansion, but I probably wont. CCP have me trapped.



Also, CCP didn't release the CQs because anyone whined. They released them because they proposed releasing them and everyone thought it was a good idea. People like you only started popping up after Incarna flopped, when CCP hadn't released anything like they said they would and they had spent the past year and a half developing the Carbon engine with few visible results. Incarnageddon had more to do with CCP's general lack of organization and a general disrespect for their playerbase, not because they wanted to implement WiS.

People like you just use it as an excuse to whine and ***** on the forums about other people's ideas and gameplay styles. No one wants the sims, they want Dues Ex in space, or Bladerunner. Dark, gritty, violent and dangerous. Or... at least two of those things.

What a horrible way to live...

The players already decided. After incarna there was a massive drop in subs but since CCP wisely decided to refocus on real Eve content subs have gone up every quarter. This is a good thing and I have to wonder about people who want to harm the game by returning to the summer of rage days.

I'm paying 9.16 euros per month to play EVE, rather than 13-some as I used to do. And that's exactly why I am here, running missions after two years without doing it.

the last thing we need are more reasons for people to stay in station.

But yeah, it would be cool.

Fully agree that all functionality must be doubled as for example it is now (you can use Neocom if you want to do something with your ship or you can use UI from CQs, etc)

What is your fursona?

With people like you championing WiS I rest assured that the game will remain safe from it.