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Paid name change. Still think its a good idea.

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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2013-08-12 12:05:46 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Again you can create dozens of alts and upkeep them basicly for free. If you really were scared about exploiting this for scamming you would be clamoring for banning alts as well - which I see nobody doing. "But muh consequences!" There are no consequences with the alt system we currently have. End of.


Recycling alts is an exploit and gets your account banned.
Logical Chaos
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#42 - 2013-08-12 12:07:10 UTC
Tobias Hareka wrote:
Teinyhr wrote:
Again you can create dozens of alts and upkeep them basicly for free. If you really were scared about exploiting this for scamming you would be clamoring for banning alts as well - which I see nobody doing. "But muh consequences!" There are no consequences with the alt system we currently have. End of.


Recycling alts is an exploit and gets your account banned.


Afaik only if you are doing it because of your security status. Everything else is fine.
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-08-12 12:19:21 UTC
Logical Chaos wrote:
Inokuma Yawara wrote:
Yeah.... There are those who woke up from a drunken stupor wondering what stupidities they've perpetrated the night before, and in their hungover condition groan in dismay as they look at the names they've created for they're toons. "P-nis Holder", "Phlem Vessel", "Frog Nuts", just to name a few. It's players like those that regret their "creativity" and wish, most earnestly, for a way to rectify their lack of good sense during their drunken malaise.

So, I say yes to paid name changes. However, for those with concerns of Awoxers, and other criminals who've perpetrated great crimes and then hide behind the anonymity of a name change, I say add a feature that makes it harder for them to run from their pasts. When you use the "Show Info" on a character, it shows their names and a list of their A.K.A.'s.

So, for example, you would see something like this: " Name: Frog Nuts, A.K.A, P-nis Holder, A.K.A. Phlem Vessel, A.K.A.. Bruce Holder."


I am strictly against CCP directing coding-effort into such a feature with the current amount of bugs still in the game.



So... You lack confidence in CCP's ability to write code? You don't think they can do it? You think the job they have is more than they can handle and therefore, should not add anything new? Keep things simple for them. Keep things as they are?

People who think that way always find that the situation around them has changed greatly and are unable to respond quickly enough to catch up. They always fall behind. If CCP lacks the confidence in themselves to write code and do new things, then they are already finished as a company. EVE will truly die. It will die because it could not evolve, or it refused to adapt to the situations around them. "What? new code? No way! It'll fail. Let's just do what we've always done."

Defeatists are what people are thought of, in military circles, when they are full of pessimism and unable or unwilling to do something substantial to move forward. Your statement, showing such pessimism, and lack of confidence is defeatist.

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Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
#44 - 2013-08-12 12:21:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Trin Javidan
The only way you can get your name changed is when its in violation of EULA and when you bought the character without knowing that it has a offensive name. IE when its offensive in another languish.

Lucky me, i have this on my main. Pirate

You know when you have a bad name when you get convo'd by ppl with those nationalities saying "dude your name". ... and "wtf your name"...
Logical Chaos
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#45 - 2013-08-12 12:33:16 UTC
Inokuma Yawara wrote:


So... You lack confidence in CCP's ability to write code? You don't think they can do it? You think the job they have is more than they can handle and therefore, should not add anything new? Keep things simple for them. Keep things as they are?

People who think that way always find that the situation around them has changed greatly and are unable to respond quickly enough to catch up. They always fall behind. If CCP lacks the confidence in themselves to write code and do new things, then they are already finished as a company. EVE will truly die. It will die because it could not evolve, or it refused to adapt to the situations around them. "What? new code? No way! It'll fail. Let's just do what we've always done."

Defeatists are what people are thought of, in military circles, when they are full of pessimism and unable or unwilling to do something substantial to move forward. Your statement, showing such pessimism, and lack of confidence is defeatist.


Wow, more wild guesses please!

I am just seeing the amount of bugs still in the game after the latest expansion that still have not be fixed yet. I mean just last week they fixed that you could finally split items in the contracts menu again.

Also I am not even saying they should stop coding. I say they have loads things that are 9001 times more important to do before such a measly addition for namechanging is implemented(yes over 9000!).

What is it with these reading comprehension fails here? Oh I forgot, GD is like special olympics.
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
#46 - 2013-08-12 12:40:49 UTC
Trin Javidan wrote:
The only way you can get your name changed is when its in violation of EULA and when you bought the character without knowing that it has a offensive name. IE when its offensive in another languish.

Lucky me, i have this on my main. Pirate

You know when you have a bad name when you get convo'd by ppl with those nationalities saying "dude your name". ... and "wtf your name"...


Question for the api guru's here,


What if CCP changed the name of my main? Would that mean that killbaords take over automaticly my new name or that my kill history gets deleted?
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-08-12 12:51:25 UTC
Logical Chaos wrote:
Inokuma Yawara wrote:


So... You lack confidence in CCP's ability to write code? You don't think they can do it? You think the job they have is more than they can handle and therefore, should not add anything new? Keep things simple for them. Keep things as they are?

People who think that way always find that the situation around them has changed greatly and are unable to respond quickly enough to catch up. They always fall behind. If CCP lacks the confidence in themselves to write code and do new things, then they are already finished as a company. EVE will truly die. It will die because it could not evolve, or it refused to adapt to the situations around them. "What? new code? No way! It'll fail. Let's just do what we've always done."

Defeatists are what people are thought of, in military circles, when they are full of pessimism and unable or unwilling to do something substantial to move forward. Your statement, showing such pessimism, and lack of confidence is defeatist.


Wow, more wild guesses please!

I am just seeing the amount of bugs still in the game after the latest expansion that still have not be fixed yet. I mean just last week they fixed that you could finally split items in the contracts menu again.

Also I am not even saying they should stop coding. I say they have loads things that are 9001 times more important to do before such a measly addition for namechanging is implemented(yes over 9000!).

What is it with these reading comprehension fails here? Oh I forgot, GD is like special olympics.


So.... You say, that it's "measly", but they can't handle it, because they have too much on their plate? That shows a lack of confidence in CCP.

Software companies manage their time and prioritize work. They set time aside to fix bugs. They set time aside to create new features. The set time aside to create the next expansion. You're saying they should focus only on that list of 9000 bugs, and not consider new features, or new content, or new.....

Did you get the big survey in the email form CCP? Did you complete it? They sent out that survey because they're going to begin planning for the next big expansion. That means, they're not concentrating on just those bugs. They're looking ahead to the next big thing. That shows confidence. The confidence to do more than just add a measly paid name change feature to EVE Online.... They have bigger dreams and agendas, and you won't give them credit that they can do it.

Defeatist.

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Logical Chaos
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#48 - 2013-08-12 14:31:59 UTC
Inokuma Yawara wrote:


So.... You say, that it's "measly", but they can't handle it, because they have too much on their plate? That shows a lack of confidence in CCP.

Software companies manage their time and prioritize work. They set time aside to fix bugs. They set time aside to create new features. The set time aside to create the next expansion. You're saying they should focus only on that list of 9000 bugs, and not consider new features, or new content, or new.....

Did you get the big survey in the email form CCP? Did you complete it? They sent out that survey because they're going to begin planning for the next big expansion. That means, they're not concentrating on just those bugs. They're looking ahead to the next big thing. That shows confidence. The confidence to do more than just add a measly paid name change feature to EVE Online.... They have bigger dreams and agendas, and you won't give them credit that they can do it.

Defeatist.


So you really are that kind of special flower. Thanks for letting me know stuff I already knew.

I didn't say they should not develop new things. I said: Please do not spend ANY time on a feature to enable this namechange thing. Anything else done with those resources is better spent for sure.

And yeah, I have indeed taken that survey.

And now stop trying to legitimate your newly learned word Defeatist by trying to use it on an internet spaceship forum and crawl back to that cave you came from.

By the way: CCP themselves said that it is difficult for them to implement even tiny changes (as long as it is not just changing some already existent numbers basically) because their Code has developed over so many years that it is indeed a complete mess. That is also the reason why things completely unrelated to changes break when they do stuff. It's all connected in a very messy way.

EVE would need a complete rewrite but that would mean a lot of workforce has to work on something that does not directly benefit the playerbase. It would only enable them to make changes more easily after that.
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#49 - 2013-08-12 14:34:31 UTC
Trin Javidan wrote:
Trin Javidan wrote:
The only way you can get your name changed is when its in violation of EULA and when you bought the character without knowing that it has a offensive name. IE when its offensive in another languish.

Lucky me, i have this on my main. Pirate

You know when you have a bad name when you get convo'd by ppl with those nationalities saying "dude your name". ... and "wtf your name"...


Question for the api guru's here,


What if CCP changed the name of my main? Would that mean that killbaords take over automaticly my new name or that my kill history gets deleted?


The name is just a name, what is important is the character id. Your character id, for example, is 260542127.

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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#50 - 2013-08-12 14:34:33 UTC
Maybe if the people who sold their characters didnt pick names like xXWeedGoku420Xx (bad example, thats a good name) we wouldn't have to clamor for paid name changes
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#51 - 2013-08-12 14:46:45 UTC
I'd pay to change my name to Chribba.

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Mr Pragmatic
#52 - 2013-08-12 15:28:16 UTC
Only way I would support this is if you could change the surname you pick. Alot of people just pick one at random b/c they don't think they'll keep playing. Then they are stuck with a lame last name.

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Ariel Dawn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-08-12 15:45:46 UTC
Just have old names show up in your employment history under a category "Previously Known As" or something.

It's silly that it isn't allowed; EVE is 10 years old. Imagine what you may have named your character had you started playing when you were 14 (stuff like xXWeedLord420Xx) and now you're stuck with that name when you're 24.
Demica Diaz
SE-1
#54 - 2013-08-12 17:45:51 UTC
Not good idea. Criminals, scammers and other goons (no pun intended) need to keep their name so people who care know who they are. Besides it also allow to follow buy/sell characters. Bear
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#55 - 2013-08-12 17:48:41 UTC
Yulinda Ambraelle wrote:
It's offered in Blizzard's World of W.....


Stopped reading right about there.

No sentence that starts that way has ever been worth reading.

Might as well have been typed on a phone using your thumbs.

Nothing typed with someones thumbs has ever been worth reading.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#56 - 2013-08-12 18:40:29 UTC
Never. A bad idea to fix a bad idea. Bad². No.

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are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Akiyo Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-08-12 18:51:15 UTC
Doubt anyone read beyond Blizzard, I know I didn't.

No
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#58 - 2013-08-12 19:40:35 UTC
I really wonder how people keep coming up with the same terrible ideas every time. Do they really think they're some sort of unique snowflake that is the first to come up with garbage like this and then decide it's not worth searching the forums because their idea is the most 'awesome' thing ever?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#59 - 2013-08-12 19:46:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
No.

Doesn't solve anything that needs solving, and only creates new problems.

Even if it were implemented, in spite of being a bad idea, it would have to include an “AKA” list on the character sheet, same as the corp history, which was immediately accessible through APIs and direct linking (i.e. link an old name and you get the current character that used to be called that), all of which would make it messy and fragile to implement, which makes it even worse.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2013-08-12 20:15:34 UTC
Since buying and selling of pilots/accounts is valid and backed up by CCP, this would be the only time I could see this as being viable.

Like a first time option of keeping or changing name.

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