EVE General Discussion

1. okay
2. Nope. supply drops, as there is less minerals being refined from ores. This means we will need a new list from this point.
3. prices of minerals increase, as the demand is the same, while the supply drops.
4. prices of ALL modules and ships increase, as mineral prices increase.
5. The amount of people PVP'ing drops, as ships and modules will be more pricey, and less people will be able to afford to PVP. This could lead to people quitting the game, as the PVP is the only thing keeping some people in the game (check around the forum), which hurts CCP's bottom line.
6. This leads to less conflict, and less ships blowing up.
7. less ships destroyed means lower demand for ships and modules
8. lower demand means lower prices for modules and ships, leading to the same with minerals.
9. lower prices on minerals will lead to one of two things:
9a. people mining more, to be able to sustain themselves, further dropping mineral prices.
9b. more PVP, increasing the amount of ships destroyed, increasing the prices.

9a may continue for a while, but eventually 9b will happen (unless all the PVP'ers have quit by then, this kills the game completely. Whole other discussion, I won't go into detail on this). All I see this doing, is hurting the mining side of EVE, and possibly the entirety of EVE. Sure, short term, it's sort of helpful for the people able to mine a lot, but long term, nothing good will happen. The EVE market needs low prices on ships and modules, because this makes PVP "cheap", and EVE is driven by PVP'ers blowing each other up.

By the way, what experience do you have on this subject? Personally, I'm currently studying this subject, so thanks for the practise in talking about the subject. But please, tell me that you're more experienced than me on this matter, so I can go in depth with what you've said, and study it closely to look for tips on the matter. But the 2. point in your post was plain wrong. If you make one activity yield less, it wont yield the same immediately after the update, thinking this is just ignorant.

Market is full of sell orders, that is ore waiting. There will be a period in which the people wake up. Then there might be a panic buying run, driving he price up dramatically, then a selling run to cash in on the new high prices and then the rest continues.

Sorry to disappoint you. I have no qualifications and no experience. I buy company shares from time to time but I usually just let them sit. I started with one when I was 12. One week's pocket money turned into a month's salary 10 years later.
"Economist," "Architect," "Editor," was my suggested top three professions, when I did my psychometric testing before starting tertiary. However, I hate money, I don't want to help make peoples' lives better with housing and offices, "More tar and concrete? No thanks," and the media .. ugh ... don't get me started on them. So I ended up doing programming with an aim to go into game design. Fulfilment would be in the art, writing and logical challenges.
That probably will never happen. Any-whoo, there in ends another sleep deprived ramble that will doubtlessly turn into 10 pages of attempts at trolling and snot flicking contests.



You are a hamster with a long tail and pointy ears. Look at that baby face!

So what you are saying, essentially, is that you want your suggestions imposed on high-sec miners while you sit pretty in null/wh-space mining Arkanor.

Try high-sec and keeping up with the post downtime rush. There are times when I go through 3 or 4 systems and find scraps in most belts. Fortunately I currently need the products from Scordite and Pyroxeres. Among the 5 systems I usually travel, I never see Kernite anymore. Veldspar is an occasional find. And when you are trying to stack up 100mil units to build something, it takes a bit to get it all from Scordite.
Yes, I've taken to moving to other systems, but it's not like I can just jump 5 systems and find some gold mine. There's a reason I'm trying to build a Providence.

Your proposal does nothing to make it more difficult to bot, and would simply result in the game being less attractive for real players. Not to mention that new players would have to jump multiple systems just to finish the mining tutorials, as the bots already tear up the newbie systems as it is, due to the sec status.

tl;dr: Not supported.

Seriously, stop it with the mini-game muck. Worst idea ever that will impeed multi-boxers. You know, those who give CCP more money than you.




6 minutes, so your a bot set up for max cargo and not max yeild. also, example; after the six minutes the minigame pops up and while your doing it the ganker/enemy fleet pops in for a chat....... goodbye.

You think I don't mine in high sec? Hemorphite is one of the best ores, better than Pyro on the market, so I scan down grav sites with it in then I watch for probes because I am all paranoid like that now

Oh and do you know you can mine ABC ores every day while living in high sec?

Maaaybe <.< o.o >.>

The best thing for ore mining or any other mining is to find a new dynamic a new way of mining.

Although I didn't like the writing the ways of mining proposed in the book Saga of Seven suns interested my greatly.

- huge sails drifting through nebula gathering minerals

- scorching hot planets have bases who refine minerals that are melted by the sun and solar winds

- large barges skim the atmosphere of gas planets for gasses

- Comets are chased redirected and then refined completely for all their minerals/gas/water

- rocks are blased with lasers and then refined (oh wait we have that allready)

Minerals should have been a part of the repair process. My hull is at 40% and I just repair it with magic and ISK.

We should require mineral packs to initiate repairs. I just don't know if making PvP more expensive is the answer we are looking for in the grander scheme of things.

This would kill mining off instantly and you know it, the amount of minerals we'd get from mining would be even more worthless than now, I personally thing one of the biggest problems is re-processing, people with barely any training in non-combat roles can spend a few hours getting the skill up and then rake in profits like crazy either from salvaging missions or PvPing and getting the wrecks there.

Mining just can't keep up because we don't have enough bonuses for all the skills we are forced to learn and that means the salvagers will always have the upper hand since they have to train less and they get more in return, they also get to blow up ships in the process! Much more interesting than watching a laser being pointed at a rock all day.

I thought I should let people know: When the forum eats my posts, pressing my browser's Back arrow twice restores the lost text. I see everyone complaining about this, but it hasn't been a problem for me.