Warfare & Tactics

Hey guys spent my first month or so setting up a miner and now that I am making decent isk I want to start a second account to have a fighter pilot.

What skill progression should I follow?

What ship progression should I follow? I currently fly a frigate

Which weapons are preferred?

How can I make money as a fighter? Are the missions the only option?

Lastly is there a guide posted anywhere?

Thanks in advance I appreciate any and all help

Thank you for the words I am just very new and totally stabbing in the dark a little more detailed guidance would be helpful.

Hi there!

Welcome to the best that EvE has to offer, pvp. I'll try to answer your questions in the order you asked, then I'll give my input and advice.

In pvp the ship and skill progression is very blurred in the sense it doesn't operate like a PVE progression, where you go from frigate > destroyer > cruiser > Battlecruiser > battleship. In the beginning, most pvpers pick something they would like to specialize in and sink a significant chunk of time into. This can be specializing in a certain race throughout their entire T1 and T2 ship lineups, or specializing in a single ship class/role, such as EWAR cruisers or Recon Ships. By specializing, you can catch up to and match a veteran's ability in that part of EvE.

Your ship progression should follow what you specialize in. You may enjoy flying frigates more than cruisers, or vice versa, and nothing is stopping you from flying one over the other all the time. I personally flew frigates for my first few months of EvE, learned how to effectively use them, got "good" using them, and am now moving into cruiser/Battlecruiser pvp. Remember, don't fly what you can't afford to lose, so if you like flying Battlecruisers but can't afford to replace them, you need to find a better income source.

There is no "preferred" weapon in EvE. Everyone has their own tastes and opinions, and the meta changes. Currently fast cruisers and kiting at >20km is very popular, as such medium pulse lasers are very commonly used, along with Rapid Light Missile Launchers. Brawling up close is also very healthy at the moment too, and for that autocannons and blasters really shine. I suggest training all of the small turret systems to T2, then decide which you like most, and run with those for a while. If you find none to be your fancy, train for T2 rockets and light missiles. EvE is all about what YOU like the most, where YOU make your own choices. Here is a guide to weapon systems, I highly recommend you read it: http://www.evealtruist.com/2012/07/weapon-systems-in-pvp.html?m=1

Yes you can make money by pvping, but it can be hard, depending on which method you choose. I am currently enlisted in Faction Warfare, and make more than enough ISK to cover my cruiser losses. If you are interested in Faction Warfare, search this forum for an up to date guide (I don't have one on hand at the moment). Some people make money by pure pirating, looting, and selling said loot, but that requires a lot of skill (both in game and real life) to do.

I hope this helped, feel free to eve mail me with any other questions or things that you would like clarified. Good luck!

I'm going to give you some advice mister negativity:

1) Get your fit right. Don't complain about not winning fights when you're not properly fitting your ships.

Kestrels use medium shield extenders, NOT small ones. Consider fitting a damage control on your Kestrel instead of the second BCU, this is optional though.

2) Pick fights based on your fits strengths. What a Kestrel does best is kite other frigates. That means start engaging things that can't project their damage to the same range you can and stay away from Tristans and faction frigates until you know how to deal with them.

3) Pick the right damage type. Unlike the Condor the Kestrel is NOT STUCK WITH KINETIC damage. Use explosive, em, ... depending on the resists of your target.


Yes, SP can make a huge difference in PvP, but the largest factor is still pilot skill. Learn your limits, learn what to do in fights.

Then don't fly that fit. Small shield extender Kestrels suck. Medium shield extender Kestrels are great. Prioritize the skills that will let you fit at least a meta 3 MSE and stop flying AB Kestrels until you have them.

The logic about the 2 BCU's works. But it's unrelated to the problem of not having an MSE.



If you come into a plex with an AB Kestrel and there is a blaster ship inside you can still pull range. Overheat your AB before you enter (Shift+click). When inside turn it on immediately at set you ship to keep at range at 8500km. If you fit a long point you can kite at even longer ranges with a rocket Kestrel.
It's not because you're fitting an AB that you shouldn't be kiting. Never fight on the enemies terms.

The only thing that can go wrong here is that you are simply slower than the blaster ship. This could be because of your fit and/or skills. If that is the case, consider dropping a BCU and fitting an overdrive.

About the MWD fits and scrams:

It is possible to warp into a plex with a scram fit sitting on the beacon, waiting to tackle you and still pull range. You shouldn't try it until you have the basics down. Instead, be the first to go into a plex and wait for someone to come for you and only warp into plexes with someone in them when you have a good reason to believe they won't scram you on the warpin. This, again, is playing to the strengths of your ship.

Get Engineering to V, train Thermodynamics so you can overheat your modules and stop hijacking other people's threads.

whatever you do, always have tackle.

just running around doing this and that, in the last 30 days i've caught a noctis, a gnosis, and a drake all going suspect for no apparent reason. and below is a link to the providence kill from last month, that had an orca in cargo.

you'll get the hang of tackle mechanics. frigate kills are peanuts, imo, so i'm ok with my scan res only being effective for cruisers and higher (on my assault frig).

you could camp gates but that's a crappy existence. find other things to do, but just be ready for things that don't plan on you being there. in july/aug i've killed 2.5B while doing missions and explo and just random stuff.

Fixed your post for you.
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If you stick with frigates and pick up all your loot its really easy to break even. Then you can do the occasional pve to fund using the occasional bigger blingier ship.