Warfare & Tactics

Its been a subject for a while that people cant do anything about someone having 12 accounts with 4 guards, well i multibox mainly because i have triple screen and i logi often enough with 3 T1 amarr logistics in FW, so maybe i see something differently?....

Tactic:

Use modules to make different problems in different screens that he does not see (probable)
ECM:
-cycle and jam different logistics ship, creating the problem of him having to re lock
Damps:
-cycle ships again with allot of damps, when you see hes chain broken you can instead of range damp sensor damp

You can combine ECM and Damps for greater effect

Neuts:
-When jammed if you are in range of hes logistic team its a good dea to have single neuts on every ship, because most logis can still rep with 2-3 RR module even without a chain.(if setup for cap ether then EW resistance)

Webs:
They will need to move no matter what subcap warefare does not come static, if they are meant to kite bringing a webbing ship to leave one behind is important, just make sure they cant kill you so pick something like a frigate to web. Or a T2 recon

And there you go, thats why you dont see allot of them in PvP, i know people said its IMPOSSIBLE to beat them when they get that much, but here you have some tips and tricks that enables you do kill a few of them with only 1-2 ships even.

The idea came to me when i saw people using ISBoxer on test server, i saw he had 4 guards on grid with like 10 BS's, so i though well lets take a Falcon on grid an annoy them, Multiboxers or not. He finish a few minutes after leaving grid giving up by how hard keeping up with the chain was.
Then he came back in hes regular setup, 10 Moros's... well something like that i dont remember the exact numbers

But multiboxing is not easy, its just easy when you make it easy on him and try to fight what hes trying to resist, instead use things rats dont do and that hes not trying to resist. And make sure you cycle around, thats my biggest problem when multiboxing even when seeing whats happening, i cant keep up with the change of DPS + Neuts + Damps Cycle or ECM. Dont just try to perma jam a single ship and perma neut another.

Toy him a bit.

Any how that's just logic to me but hopefully it helps someone out.

Seconded.

It's allowed. Ever get hit by an isboxed tornado camp? Dont even get too see your ship uncloak all the way

Zhek Kromtar, legend that he is, and may you ever google his awesomeness, typifies what ISBOXers say they are doing. That is utter rubbish; they are skirting the borders of exploits, in my opinion, for the reasons Comrade laney has outlined. it's a device which allows simultenous actions across many clients, without going down the Kromtar route.

The Zhek Kromtar experience (tm) shows that it is a one-way street. You don't get to make mistakes. If you make mistakes, you suffer horribly. His killboard shows this amply; he would easily win with no losses...or lose everything.

The key to running ISBOXer accounts, speaking as someone who hates them, is to ensure all your toons have the same skills trained so they can carry out the same action, with the same chances of success or speed, at the same time. This is particularly true for navigation skills, which dictate warping, jumping gate, moving towards a target, realigning, etc.

When one of these mouthbreathers has the toons in the same ship with the same skills, they are very overpowered. The problem isn't that each individual toon is OP, but that even when faced with equal numbers of enemies they are going to win because they are going to be locally superior in numbers.

For example, and ISBOXer with 6 Merlins vs a kitchen sink of 6 kitey/brawly fits, the Merlins will overpower their foes one by one, virtually alpha'ing them, until the enemy is gone/dispersed. The ISBOXer concentrates, essentially, 6 Merlin's worth of DPS into a ball of ships that act as one, and chases down one foe at a time. 6 guys on the other team react at different times, with different skills and ranges and modules, and attack at different times.

The key to defeating them (assuming hey don't stick to brawly gank setups or nado gank squads) is to jam one of them or damp one of them out. The moment a lock is broken, the ISBOXer cannot re-lock because that requires key and mouse commands which all toons will perform.

It also goes for multiboxers; in a brawl against a multiboxer, the key is to ECM their logi and make them pay attention to as many of their screens at once.

ISBOXer is crap. Just repeating it again.

Ya sure like if you are going to fly 10 BS's without getting noticed by any fleets, a simple pimp bomb would pretty much kill you right there. (a few BS's with smartbombs getting dropped by a Titan bridge)

All you need is anything to get close to you at all, simple ceptors go to ups of 6000m/s, just drop a dead bait run a frig your way drop cyno or warp in BS's. You don't even really need a titan... it does make you look cooler tho.

multiboxing is not a function of irl friends. some people live with their friends who all play eve and multibox.



battleships are played out. but in some predictable, low-risk situations where a hp tank is required such as incursions, a domi gang might happen.

otherwise, a bloated sig res and radius combined with slow speeds is not the best option for multiboxing.

battleships. most likely hacs. you underestimate your opponent.

Hotdrop it :3

This is a Post to people who think Its OP, its far from being.
The counter to multiboxer's is more simple then getting another account.
ECM might be a counter for ECM, but ECCM, damps & sensor booster's all truly help you counter it better.

I don't IS Box but I have 0 friends and play in isolation. But I also don't have to deal with the melodrama, games, backstabbing, politics and general crapism of corps and alliances... Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all?

are you people dense? "counter to multibox"? what the hell are you talking about? how about we change that to "counter to small fleet flying xxxx doctrine"?

10 caracals with 4 ospreys as support? how about you drop 10 mallers with augoros as support?

anything else is you being ******** and trying to come up with some idiotic and over complicated solution to a very simple problem...

the problem is: a **** gang will die horribly to even the most basic doctrine.

people in this thread remind me of the minnie FW weirdos... raging over the maller and oracle gangs J4LP swarmed them with "huh, we should go muninn gangs, with vagas, and logi, and triage. and...." jesus, if you drop 3billon isk on top of 200m to kill it, you already lost.

stop being cowards and fly t1 and win the slugfest, and you don't like the slugfest, then don't engage.