Wormholes

I prefer a version of vision that CCP had for WH in the first place, WH that have no moons - no POSes

Either shake up some of the existing WHs to remove moons, this will give conflict drivers as people look for WH that have moons and give people the encouragement to roam outside of their home system


Or introduce new classes of WH with no moons, enabling roaming or a more nomad lifestyle

No, just no.

There has to be system classes, and a way of telling.

I'm fine with randomized triggers in sites, more variation in PVE, etc.
Rare ice belts would be interesting too.

However. Removal of statics is a bad idea. There will be no reliable way to find PVP, and with current roaming hole spawn rates (especially in my C6) the possibility is there for someone to get trapped in a system for weeks at a time.

Just a bad idea.

I would encourage an increase in the spawn rate of wandering WHs.
Effect: More PVP, more randomness, less safety in WHs.

So here's some food for thought: how soon can we organize a short list for this stuff and how hard would it be for CCP to implement even a tenth of it? I don't mean bug fixes and just general "oh this should have been implemented years ago" stuff, I mean new content. Chitsa, can you get the ball rolling? You already posted this thread which is amazing, but what can the wormhole community do to really push for new stuff?

I already have the short (long?) list ready. Was compiling it for few days. I will not post it here yet as I want to see more ideas.

What will happen is I will post my list here and I will post version on CSM/CCP forums and we will see what happens. Some ideas might mature into content while others will not.

Wormhole space itself is essentially dead. There are a few large alliances (by a few, I mean really 4 or 5) and the rest are either carebears, Russian farmers, or small corps in lower class holes. There isn't really a conflict driver for spicy pvp action in higher class wormholes.

We really need something that the nullbears don't have that would make more people interested in High-class wormhole life. Living in a C6 with a C6 static means that our Ragerolls will give us pvp every 50 or so rolls. And even then, it's usually Russians afking sites.

I think what might be a good idea is to have a few lower class anoms spawn in C5/C6s. This will get day trippers into holes as well as give more incentives for medium sized corps to join higher class wormhole space. The lower class anoms shouldn't spawn as frequently as the higher class sites (maybe for every 2-3 Core Bastions/Citadels, Mirrors etc there is one lower class anom)

Lets not go off topic here.

I did not read all post here and possibly some are still proposed, here are my ideas:

Generally:

- 2. static WH for every system like C2
- change T3 Subsystems at SMA
- make it possibly to use SMA from more than 3km like CHA
- make it posibly to save probe formations
- access pos structures like SMA CHA etc... by corp titels not by roles
- reduce lifetime of wh´s by 1/3 or 1/2
- change wh mechanic to make the another site of appear by spawning not by warp to

- Give small Groups or single players more content to do in wh space ??? atm i have no idea
- Give wh space something that empire space needs

Production:

- change sleeper salvage, at the moment meldet nanoribbons are the only thing worth anything
- give us more items to produce from wh products -> t3 production
- improve refining arrays
- reduce brightness of gas clouds

PVE:

- remove trigger in combat sites, make it random
- relic and data sites should have less containers, because nobody wants to spend 1/2 or 1 hour hacking
- anomalys should dispawn after 3days, no matter if they are triggered or not

PVP:

- create a item only for BS to reduce their mass, to make them useable in wh combats
- disable selfdistructing ships inside force fields

I think to fix WH space is to boost the number of people moving in and exploring WH space that is the only thing i have ever thought that is wrong in WH space, the lack of online and active people roaming around them. I think the only way to get high class WH space full of people is to get a lot more people in lower class WH's ridiculously rich so that they become more risk adverse and in turn move up classes in WH space.

Some ideas i thought of.
Fix the safety of C1 factory systems to allow more lower SP players to take a foothold. (Yes i realise they are not perfectly safe, but they are a ***** to clean out)

Fix C2 isk/hour so that people want to farm their own sites (Although they should be living in a C2 for their static)

Raise the spawn rate of sites in C3 WH's, This gives the groups living in C2 with stat C3's more isk to earn and puts them out in space longer. It also allows more then a solo player to inhabit a C3 system, as it is a C3 is either farmed out while the resident sleeps or only enough sites for 1 player to live out of without dieing of boredom.

Give C4's a WH and a K-space static or a dual WH static. Your days of hiding away in your carebear paradise that is such a pain in the ass for anyone to bother to interact with you needs to end.

Give C5/6 space a ROLLABLE null static, i know they get a lot in the chain and are great for roaming but a direct rollable static null WH gives the option to target specific regions daily and would be great content creators. I don't believe they should ever get other k-space connections directly as they need to be out in chains to get to k-space to be vulnerable at times.

Fix SMA's (the loot dropping and the security) Dont allow SMA's and CH's to be unanchored after a RF stage has been completed.

FIX POSES THEY ARE GODAMN HORRIBLE AND CCP SHOULD BE ASHAMED THEY ARE STILL IN THIS STATE.

Allow T3 subsystems to be changed in a pos, that goes to the above point though.

Fix POS/corp roles, as much as i dislike the groups that got screwed in the past by the very famous spy incidents i dislike that those groups are no longer in WH space because the role situation mean that idiots are vulnerable in a very complex system.

Allow clone swapping at a pos in WH space (NOT CLONE JUMPING AND NOT A MED CLONE)

Fix the gimped refining array so more desperate miners are floating around waiting to be killed.

Change sleeper site predictability

Allow custom probe formation settings to be saved, i'm sorry but i can do better.

Make sleepers fight back, make them attack infrastructure on a relevant basis to force the farmers of WH-space to be out in the open more and vulnerable then they are now just farming the sites and logging off.

Create more conflict drivers that don't include the only option to force a fight is a full scale eviction attempt. (Fights are awesome but not having neighbors next week is no fun at all..... Looking at you C6 folk)

Change combat mechanics so that fights can continue into HS for a very limited length of time.

Create modules/rigs that allow more fluid doctrines to become viable in the mass limited WH jump combat environment. (DO NOT MESS WITH WH MASS MECHANICS THEMSELVES)

Allow alliance level BM's and allow the copying of more then 5 at a time.

Create more roaming WH's that only activate in systems that have people active within either side.

All these above points go to making WH space a better place to live, putting people out in the open more then they currently are, creating more conflict and just making WH space a touch more comfortable place to live and fight out of so it doesn't become just easier to not be in Wh space. As it currently is for the most part low class WH's are just not worth the risk/investment required of them compared to the risk/investment required to earn the same if not more isk in perfect safety running lvl 4 missions in HS and that needs to be adjusted if we ever hope to have a situation where all low class holes are overflowing with people and WH systems are fought over.

I also think it needs to be even harder to fully evict people from higher class WH's (don't whine at me you know its true) i feel there needs to be more reason and more conflict drivers in high class holes but we still want those people you fight with to be there next week to fight again, love them or hate them this is the way it really needs to be. You also need this as this is 100% the major reason up and coming newer WH groups think twice about coming into C5/C6 space, the fear that after the first engagement with the major groups that they will be evicted.

The Herrbert of my heart, <3.

Will see you at the sun one day.

This is not possible without giving us stations as POS's due to not being able to replicate the art asset changes that occur when you change subsystems on a T3 and part of the reason that when they give us POS makeover in 2022 we will get stations instead of a POS.

I agree with you but that is the reason you wont be getting it any time soon.