Ships & Modules

Wait...what?

Putting that Deadspace mod on a Tier 3 BC? srsly? I mean hey if you can afford regular replacement then more power to you, but you might be missing out on say a T2 version of that 1600mm Plate?

Not to mention, that using Mega Pulse your obviously planning up close fighting? But using a MWD kills the Sig Radius advantage of the ship?

I call fantasy fit here.... the ships are cool, and just need a chance to be put through their paces - I mean would it have made much difference if it was made a BS that had half the tank of other BS's, as opposed to BC class?

Personally I don't think so... but then I don't fit Deadspace items on my PVP ships - so what do I know?

I was all ready to agree with the OP that SBs did the job of the new BCs about just as well, tho not to the extent to make the new Tr3 BCs useless, then I read farther down where she said the Naga was the bes Tr 3 of them al and I thought she was kinda a silly caldari lover... then I read a few pages and relised the OP is crazy, or a dedicated troll.

To put it simply, the new Tr3 BCs arnt brawlers like BSs, they are mid range dps platforms. the Orical and the Tornado can lay down serious DPS at 50-70k.

P.S. if the OP really wants to try a torp Naga I sugest trying a HAM drake first, way better EHP, reasonable tackle, and almost 700dps, that will hit for far more actual none paper dps than the Nagas torps thanks to CCP takign away its torp explostion bonus.

It has the same tank as a Nano Cane of course it can.

How I will fly them is small gang support forgoing tackle to maximize Gank and Tank. Oracle will be flown at Scorch ranges when possible and INM at others used as a DPS Pump for small gangs. The Nado will stick to around 20km out of Web Range or between 30-40km where Dmg is quite high. As for the Whelpnado it is pretty obvious how to use those in an Alpha Fleet.

How does exchanging tackle for Battleship DPS and Battlecruiser Tank on a Cruiser sized hull not...

Sure go fly stealth Bombers or whatever...

ill say it again if your dealing damage from your falloff you will get 50% to 75% of your damage and if you take it out to longer ranges youll do about the same dps now you can take it in closer say 21k and you would probably get 60% to 80% which would keep you comfortably inside where people can warp disrupt you so that could be a comfortable range but then people can burn over to you in cruisers and frigs so you are not as safe as you could be in either a BS or a SB because you dont have the tank of a A BS to be able to keep in a nice high DPS spot or the ability to get out of dodge as soon as you get targeted if you get targeted at all

heres a perfect example but i dont expect every fleet to have this composition 4 - 6 SB's 2 to 4 BC's 1 or 2 recons or 1 recon and 1 logistics

my preference for low sec would be 4 hurricanes nano 6 hounds a arazu and falcon

hounds because i like them that would be about the only reason

you use the hurricanes as bait the falcon and arazu pliots sitting at distance cloaked with the SB's sitting on the neighboring gate not to flood local, as soon as you start be become overwhelmed you unclock the falcon and arazu and bring in the SB's the SB's will hit the secondary when the primary gets to 10% of there tank or if there is a target that they could hit more successfully they will hit that and when the hurricanes have finshed with there primary they move onto the SB target and finsh that off while the arazu keeps targets from warping and the hurricanes keep stuff webbed and the falcon removed large chunks of DPS



PS i would probably actually go for a logistics and a Falcon and drakes

but you have also got to think that for flexibilities sake the medium guns and drones would be helpful and if you try and speed tank with 425 duels your going to lose DPS over 425 singles or 220s

I'm getting bored and lazy again back tommrow or maybe in a few hours

800mm for starters and they can put more Real DPS on a Nano Cane then Barrage in 425mm's and Warriors at similar ranges. Since you are in a gang plenty of other folks will have Drones to pop Ceptors and other Frigs or force them off Grid. Overall it makes a great DPS Platform for popping Battlecruisers which are the most used class of ship currently.

As for speed these things can outrun ships like Nano Canes allowing them to Kite around enemies in gangs the same way.

only problem with that is your still using big guns with low tracking which isn't exactly perfect for speed tanking if you wanna put on a tracking enhancer what are you going to take off a damage mod lower dps there by making that argument pointless a nano well that will lower you speed a tracking computer well all those are used for tank and MWD

so no the hurricane would win because you cant fit the tracking enhancer you would need to speed tank the only way would be to downgrade to 425 duels and reduce dps and range for tracking dunno which one would be worse losing dps by the removal of a gyro or downgrading to 425 duels

well in a 1v1 yeah the torado would win but for groups but then again it would lose to a vaga a ship cant be judged by in its entity in 1v1

suppose against BC's it would be good in 1v1 though wow they do have a use there we go

Well that would be right if it was not wrong.

800mm can track a hurricane just fine doing more Dmg then a Cane with Warriors can and as for speed you are literally faster then a 2x Nanocane without fitting and Nano's or overdrives.

No one is talking 1v1 but you since it is a gang support ship used with gang tackle. But really what does loosing to a Vega have to do with anything?

Yes you do have the Agility of a Cane /facepalm have you even looked at the Stats =/

The Agility is greater then a Cane, a Single Nano Cane and matches a Duel Nano Cane and does more DPS at range and Close then a Duel TE Cane Trip Gyro with Drones on ships with a BC Sized Sig.