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Wolf-Rayet and Pulsar system effects to change?

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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#1 - 2013-08-10 11:33:25 UTC
From the Warfare Links thread in Features and Ideas (CLICK HERE)
CCP Fozzie wrote:
figuring out what we want to do with Pulsar and Wolf Rayet wormholes first.
Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-08-10 12:06:33 UTC
Me and James are following any possible changes closely.

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me
Vassal Zeren
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-08-10 12:44:45 UTC
Paikis wrote:
From the Warfare Links thread in Features and Ideas (CLICK HERE)
CCP Fozzie wrote:
figuring out what we want to do with Pulsar and Wolf Rayet wormholes first.



Oh ****.

A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#4 - 2013-08-10 15:17:46 UTC
Chitsa Jason wrote:
Me and James are following any possible changes closely.


Care to fill us in on any potential ideas that have been tabled?

Any ideas of your own?
Nix Anteris
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#5 - 2013-08-10 15:36:47 UTC
I think you're taking it out of context. Read it like this:

CCP Fozzie wrote:
figuring out how to deal with fleet boosting bonuses in Pulsar and Wolf Rayet wormholes first.
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#6 - 2013-08-10 16:19:49 UTC
CCP took the buffs away from the capital local reps for the same reason. Gonna be interesting to see what happens

Wormholer for life.
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-08-10 16:43:02 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Chitsa Jason wrote:
Me and James are following any possible changes closely.


Care to fill us in on any potential ideas that have been tabled?

Any ideas of your own?


you heard of an NDA before mate?
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#8 - 2013-08-10 17:30:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Don't personally see a need for any special casing pulsar/WR - it makes them a unique and possibly interesting challenge the incident with Phoenix Gold's Chimera for instance wouldn't have been half as interesting in a normal space system (as for one he probably wouldn't have pimped it half as much outside of a pulsar) and making max use of ganglinks along with the system effects just encourages that kind of thing.
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#9 - 2013-08-10 20:20:23 UTC
There's a difference between making things interesting and making things overpowered...

Wormholer for life.
Vassal Zeren
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-08-10 21:35:59 UTC
Wander Prian wrote:
There's a difference between making things interesting and making things overpowered...


Yeah, but pulsars and wold rayets are not OP. The enemy can bring ships that also benefit more from it so really your on a decent playing field. It just adds to the terrain of the wh and perhaps pronounces the home field advantage slightly more. Btw have you ever lived in one?

A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#11 - 2013-08-10 21:48:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Wander Prian wrote:
There's a difference between making things interesting and making things overpowered...


I would probably go as far as to say pulsars especially and WR to do lend themselves towards overpowered setups but also encourage people to throw a lot of ISK down and ultimately are self-containing as you can't bring the system effect around with you to other parts of eve.

As corps like AHARM, Exhale, ADHC, etc. have shown those kind of setups are far from unbeatable either.
FleetAdmiralHarper
Kitchen Sink Kapitals
#12 - 2013-08-11 02:49:09 UTC  |  Edited by: FleetAdmiralHarper
i dont even own a c4 pulsar yet and they wanna change it... my suggestion is to do nothing..

i like the way they are.

if you really must tweak something. increase the bonuses 10% XD
and make it so we can deploy mines and gun battery's inside a wh around roid belts and wh exits. to help defend it.

and they are right, if u see a armor wh, bring a armor fleet, if u see a shield wh, bring a shield fleet.. duh.. its not op or even unfair in anyway.. unless your ********.. in which case we cant help you because ya cant fix stupid.


better yet. give a bonus to people who have POS's set up in them XD
call it a *get the hell off my lawn* bonus
+25% to resits XD
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#13 - 2013-08-11 04:01:31 UTC
Oxandrolone wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Chitsa Jason wrote:
Me and James are following any possible changes closely.


Care to fill us in on any potential ideas that have been tabled?

Any ideas of your own?


you heard of an NDA before mate?


I have, and I fully expect to be told no, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that.
Anuki Peime
LM Industry and more
#14 - 2013-08-11 09:46:51 UTC
i do not see anythimg wrong, why change it?

Sorry for my bad english, spelling errors are for general amusement, if you find a grammar error you can keep it !!!
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#15 - 2013-08-11 10:23:55 UTC
From what I understood, the problem is that the wh-effects combined with links would make capitals pretty OP. Same reason they aren't buffing local capital reps yet. CCP needs time to investigate the issue. They aren't saying they are changing them.

Wormholer for life.
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-08-11 20:47:58 UTC
Wander Prian wrote:
From what I understood, the problem is that the wh-effects combined with links would make capitals pretty OP. Same reason they aren't buffing local capital reps yet. CCP needs time to investigate the issue. They aren't saying they are changing them.


I dont see how it matters when both sides can bring them. So what if an archon can tank 15k DPS in a c6 wolf-reyat (sp can archons on both sides of the engagement)

Thats the whole point of these different system effects. We dont want homogenized system effects.
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#17 - 2013-08-11 21:19:50 UTC
I don't think CCP wants that either. Most likely they just want to make sure about the numbers and how it affects the game before they release the links and local rep buffs for capitals.

Wormholer for life.