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Why can't my CNR do this? D:
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Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-11-11 18:25:28 UTC
Hello ship people! I suspect I might get a short sweet answer to this that I am not hoping for but I will ask anyways!

I have looked up CNR fittings online and found one that was pretty and I liked it, but I cannot get it to do what the post says it can do! Mine does less DPS and is not cap stable. Obviously my skills are different but even when I put the exact same fitting into EFT it is not even close to being cap stable and has like 100 less DPS D:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/23851-Raven-Navy-Issue-Proper-CNR-mission-fit.html

That is the fitting I am using. The only reason I can think of is this post is from 2009 and maybe they nerfed the CNR's capacitor since then? Please tell me this is not the case! I would really like to replace my cap booster with a cap recharger like in the picture and be stable!

Thank you in advance for not yelling!

Ferox #1
Cant tell Ifserious
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#2 - 2011-11-11 18:31:23 UTC
mmmm gank bait.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2011-11-11 18:31:45 UTC  |  Edited by: mxzf
CNRs (and most other missioning BSes) aren't really designed to run cap-stable. It's designed for burst taking. As long as you have a minute or two of cap, you should be good. Instead of just turning the booster on, you wait 'til you're at 1/2-2/3 shields, boost 'till you're about full again, and then turn it off and let your cap regen. Instead of having a med shield booster on there, drop on an XL one and just burst tank.

And to answer your original question, it is still cap-stable with max skills, it's your skills that are lacking. It's still a really crappy fit though.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#4 - 2011-11-11 18:32:46 UTC
If your CNR is cap-stable it's not doing enough DPS. You don't need to be even nearly capstable to do level 4s.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-11 18:37:14 UTC
Well I can see none of you bothered to even look at the fit except the person who wants to gank it! I just now figured out my mistake... I have been using the large A-Type booster instead of the medium.... D: So sorry about this topic! But if anyone bothered to check that fitting they would see it is set up for maxium DPS with MINUMUM tank WHILE cap stable...

Thanks anyways ship people! :D

Ferox #1
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2011-11-11 18:37:42 UTC
mxzf wrote:
CNRs (and most other missioning BSes) aren't really designed to run cap-stable. It's designed for burst taking. As long as you have a minute or two of cap, you should be good. Instead of just turning the booster on, you wait 'til you're at 1/2-2/3 shields, boost 'till you're about full again, and then turn it off and let your cap regen. Instead of having a med shield booster on there, drop on an XL one and just burst tank.


Since the CNR's cap regenerates much faster than the shields, your optimum course is to constantly top up your shields to the the ~90% mark until your cap hits 35% or so. Then keep the cap at that level with intermitting shield boosting until your shields have degraded to ~10%. Then start thinking about GTFO Blink (But in reality you should have murdered everything by then)

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Goodgodyourface
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-11-11 18:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Goodgodyourface
Kietay Ayari wrote:
Hello ship people! I suspect I might get a short sweet answer to this that I am not hoping for but I will ask anyways!

I have looked up CNR fittings online and found one that was pretty and I liked it, but I cannot get it to do what the post says it can do! Mine does less DPS and is not cap stable. Obviously my skills are different but even when I put the exact same fitting into EFT it is not even close to being cap stable and has like 100 less DPS D:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/23851-Raven-Navy-Issue-Proper-CNR-mission-fit.html

That is the fitting I am using. The only reason I can think of is this post is from 2009 and maybe they nerfed the CNR's capacitor since then? Please tell me this is not the case! I would really like to replace my cap booster with a cap recharger like in the picture and be stable!

Thank you in advance for not yelling!


Caldari Navy Invuls. They take less cap per activation.

EDIT: Accidentally put a Shield Recharger II instead of a Cap Recharger II. I'm cap stable with the CR (using my Caldari alt, not all Lvl V). Yeah, your skills just suck.
Alara IonStorm
#8 - 2011-11-11 18:41:08 UTC
It is cap stable but the person is using a Medium Shield Booster incase you set a Large in. If not the fitting mod is a Power Diagnostic System and not an RCU. That is about the only 2 mistakes you could make that would make it less then cap stable.

As for the weapons he has 4 implants and is counting Hammerhead II's

ZMU 1000
ZMS 1000
ZMA 1000
ZMM 100

Those will bring the DPS above 800.
Darrow Hill
Vodka and Vice
#9 - 2011-11-11 18:58:27 UTC
I hope the OP is not posting on his main.

That boat has "gank me" written all over it.
Cunane Jeran
#10 - 2011-11-11 19:00:17 UTC
I'd be very tempted to replace that Cap Recharger II for a 2nd Target Painter assuming I still had 4 minutes + of cap in the tank.
Moranti Patron
Income Savings Plan
#11 - 2011-11-11 19:12:12 UTC


Kietay Ayari wrote:
Well I can see none of you bothered to even look at the fit except the person who wants to gank it! I just now figured out my mistake... I have been using the large A-Type booster instead of the medium.... D: So sorry about this topic! But if anyone bothered to check that fitting they would see it is set up for maxium DPS with MINUMUM tank WHILE cap stable...

Thanks anyways ship people! :D



Did you see the text about implants?
"Here is my eft cnr so you can see all the stats, i included implants because well i use them. If you wanna throw on crystals for extra go for it."

I have to think they are making the difference.

jus' sayin
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-11-11 19:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Kietay Ayari
Yes I used the implants too, they are all DPS implants. It was just a mix up between large and mediums! :D Thank you though. This character is not even 3 months old you silly people!

Cunane Jeran wrote:
I'd be very tempted to replace that Cap Recharger II for a 2nd Target Painter assuming I still had 4 minutes + of cap in the tank.


Also, how are you beating a mission in 4 minutes? I had to run my large booster about 50% of the time during missions so I assume this medium one would need to be on a lot more :O

Ferox #1
Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-11-11 20:15:17 UTC
Please don't fly a fully faction fit CNR, just don't do it.
Nimrod Nemesis
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-11-11 20:47:39 UTC
Oh battleclinic, never change.
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-11-11 21:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzzmong
I'm not really a Raven pilot, and I've no designs on a CNR, however, I've heard rumours, sexy ones, that Liang's fit on the Evelopedia is one of the best mission running CNR fits ever.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-11-13 00:59:48 UTC
Cap stable CNR:

Mids
1x - XL Shield booster II
2x - Mission Specific Hardeners II
1x - Shield boost Amp
2x - Cap Recharger II

Lows
1x - DC II
2x - BCU II
2x - Cap Power Relay II

Rigs
3x Cap Control Circuit

I use the DC II for a little extra tank, but it isn't necessary. You can substitute it for a third BCU, but any more than that is pretty much useless. Unless your skills are pretty weak, you won't have one problem with this set-up in terms of cap stability.
"If."
Fedimart
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-11-13 02:35:22 UTC
Darrow Hill wrote:
I hope the OP is not posting on his main.

That boat has "gank me" written all over it.


Ah another loot pinata! A low SP pilot with Deadspace and Faction fitted ship equals an easy kill with nice drops. I can just see the locator agents working now. Twisted
Fedimart
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-11-13 03:07:04 UTC
In a more serious post than the one I posted above i would HIGHLY DISCOURAGE the OP from flying such a ship. There are pilots that hang around mission systems and do nothing but scan ships, look at the pilots age and determine if it's worth ganking or not.

That fit you posted WILL get you ganked. It's not a matter of IF but WHEN. If you just had a deadspace SB and the CN BCS's it MIGHT get passed over but with all the other faction items it's easily worth a suicide gank. Please listen to some of the other posters and don't become a victim.
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-11-13 04:19:02 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
Hello ship people! I suspect I might get a short sweet answer to this that I am not hoping for but I will ask anyways!

I have looked up CNR fittings online and found one that was pretty and I liked it, but I cannot get it to do what the post says it can do! Mine does less DPS and is not cap stable. Obviously my skills are different but even when I put the exact same fitting into EFT it is not even close to being cap stable and has like 100 less DPS D:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/23851-Raven-Navy-Issue-Proper-CNR-mission-fit.html

That is the fitting I am using. The only reason I can think of is this post is from 2009 and maybe they nerfed the CNR's capacitor since then? Please tell me this is not the case! I would really like to replace my cap booster with a cap recharger like in the picture and be stable!

Thank you in advance for not yelling!

holy SHEET really hope that isnt ur build if it is watch for scanners ppl gonna try to eat that fat turkey of ur for its stuffing =P
Fist1
Phantoms of Kyros
#20 - 2011-11-14 00:00:59 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
Hello ship people! I suspect I might get a short sweet answer to this that I am not hoping for but I will ask anyways!

I have looked up CNR fittings online and found one that was pretty and I liked it, but I cannot get it to do what the post says it can do! Mine does less DPS and is not cap stable. Obviously my skills are different but even when I put the exact same fitting into EFT it is not even close to being cap stable and has like 100 less DPS D:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/23851-Raven-Navy-Issue-Proper-CNR-mission-fit.html

That is the fitting I am using. The only reason I can think of is this post is from 2009 and maybe they nerfed the CNR's capacitor since then? Please tell me this is not the case! I would really like to replace my cap booster with a cap recharger like in the picture and be stable!

Thank you in advance for not yelling!

You do realise that anyone can attack you in highsec right? All concord does is destroy the attackers ship, most of the time too late to do you any good. Yeah they loose security standing but a lot of people will take that penalty just to have their alt scoop all those faction mods after you die. Where else can someone make over a bil isk in under 20 seconds?
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