Warfare & Tactics

A couple things.

1. Join Frog land, there are plenty of FCs.
2. Quit whining and create a fleet, there is plenty o pew to be had, even by us nubs.

http://blfox.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1589649

While the Princess is Boss and I'm generally in agreement, I don't want to try to take out an ihub or a POS without more then 10 pilots.

each militia has litterly to many fc's and not enough peons. its the opposite of null. everybody in militia has been playing for too long and is to pussy to undock anything other than frigate. after years of pvp bitter vet lvl5 was trained across all militias. and now nobody fights unless their is enough peons and enough peons with the correct type of ship, its raining on monday and its the afternoon, and the link pilots are ready to go in a pos, and t1 logi suicide alts are ready as well, and we have 100% intel 4 jumps from in all directions, and its going to be an easy victory since we have titan boosts and battleship and they are all in bc's haha.

thats militia. tons of fc's no balls to loose 30 mil isk. not enough loyal peons to do the bidding and they are ALL like that. except gallentee, where they seem to have thousands of peons

Interesting thread and I'd like to offer my perspective having been in FW for a year now.

Galmil has more FCs than any other militia. Some good. Some God aweful. This has led to a double edge sword. The good side is that leads to activity and fights. The downside is that many of the grunts are incapable of creating their own content and want to be served PVP on a platter. They want someone to do the thinking for them. But I suspect that's most of Eve anyway.




This is not a good excuse. The previous FW corp I help managed was lead by my CEO who was rather noobish at lowsec PVP (barely 10M SP at the time and just did hisec PVP).

I helped him alot by understanding doctrines and fight styles in the early days of the corp despite my own inexperience at FCing. I just knew alot by reading stuff. He was quite timid in the beginning but he eventually grasped what I was preaching and started leading weekly GalMil fleets. All of a sudden, many of the more established corps would follow him. Sometimes he wins. Sometimes he loses. We would always talk privately about what we did wrong and improve. Was he an epic FC? No. But he had balls and initiative. Which is all you need to FC. And this is the reason most people won't FC be it in FW or elsewhere; It takes confidence to put yourself out there on a weekly basis and have others judge you be it publicly or privately.

It is a shame because I think FW is a great opportunity for people to learn how to fight small gang and FC. This is something I have told my own corpmates as we try to grow the next generation of FCs in our corp. Our corp has more FCs than most others and they've all led inter-militia fleets from the frigate level to BS level. But it's never good to rely on the same people over and over again. Thus my desire to groom more FCs.

I wouldn't be too hard on any militia and the lack of FCs. Trying to herd a fleet consisting of personnel from a dozen corps is alot of work. Many of the better FCs expect certain doctrines and many of the corps don't do a great job of grooming their pilots for fleet warfare. Eg; they're still flying kitchen sink.

Join a corp. militia chat is fun for chatting while running plexes or whatever, but it's not the place to find fleets

/me SPAMS Intel Channels when forming a fleet.

/me Gets Nothing while at least 13 vets are online.

/me Starts spaming militia chat with the fleet.

/me Gets 6 people 2 of whom are in amarr fitting a frigate.

/me disbands fleet

/me goes out and solos like always

First, many FCs just FC for their own corp or ally. So you are adviced to join an FW-Corp.
Second, FCing is really a though job and therefore you really burn out easily if you do this too much in addtion to your RL job.
Third, why don't you try it yourself. If there is no FC then just create a fleet and FC it yourself. Don't wait all the time for others showing you how to live your life.

From experiance: Excussses, my experiance is that ppl are too lazy to learn, to create, to organize and to run a fleet. It is not that hard just some common sence, logic and ability to think for your selve is all you need..... but unfortualy most ppl in and out of game cant even manage that. So get your **** togheter, undock get a few ppl and blob some so you learn your first baby steps. After which you can go as deep in as you wish. Its the journey that learn you, instead that you need to learn the journey!

It's someone who talks on comms and who you generally ignore.

I am an FC!