Player Features and Ideas Discussion

When CCP did the Battleship rebalance and thier decision to leave the Scorpion as a "disruption" ship caused the Caldari to only have one attack and only one combat Battleship. This also meant that Gal/ammar/mInmatar were left out of any distruption Battleship.

My Proposal is to introduce one new combat BS for Caldari and then 3 new "disruption" BS for Gal/Ammar/Minmatar

I came up with some rough concepts for these 4 new ships and they go as foward:

Disclamer i left out most of their stats the only ship i showed for drone bay was the gal one I instead focused on concepts slot layout and ship bonuses.

Minmatar
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The concept here is to make a big old school bellicose. The Idea is to make a good platform for the Ewar for each race give it good ehp and ok damage projection.

10% bonus to Target Painter Effectiveness and stasis webberfier optimal range per level
5% bonus to Torpedo and Cruise Missile damage Per level

7 High Slots 6 Turret 2 Missile

6 Mid Slots

6 Low slots

Gal
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The concept here is to make a drone ship but not a dps beast but one that can take advantage of ewar/utility drones. This ship by design is supposed to be the heavy Tackle.

10% bonus to Sensor Damper effectiveness and Warp Scram/Disrupter Range per level
15% bonus to Electronic Warefare and Utility Drones effectiveness Per level

125 mb 375m3 drone bay

6 high slots 6 Turrets

6 mid slots

6 low slots

Amarr
(needs a name)

This one is interesting mainly because the geddon has the second ewar(i know nuets/nos is not "really" ewar but go with me here) So why not make this ship a single ewar type and to compensate for lack or secondary give it a good damage bonus.

7.5% bonus to Tracking disrupter effectivness per level
7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret rate of fire per level

6 high slots 6 Turrets

5 mid slots

8 low slots

Caldari:
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Ok now for the combat BS. (update i am going to try a missile combat version instead i figured big old sckoool drake)

10% to Kinetic Missile damage per level
4% to Shield Resistances Per level

7 high slots 7 Turrets

7 mid slots

5 low slots

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Ok now the remaining 4 battleships.

This is more a loose concept but i am thinking logistics ships large RR and ET plus for gal and mini new assist bonuses. Role bonus to Logistic drone effectiveness

Caldari:

150% bonus to shield and Energy Transfer per level

Amarr:

150% bonus to Remote Armor Repair System and Energy Transfer per level

Gal:
150% bonus to Remote Armor Repair System Per level
20% bonus to Projected Eccm Range Per level

Minmatar:
150% bonus to shield per level
10% bonus to Remote sensor Booster range per level

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ok then finally we have tech II ABC's Basically i would like to see the oversized weapons system upgraded and turned into a monster. yes i am proposing a heavy Bomber.

Think Stealth bomber now think of a ABC version designed to be a capital killer in a small package.
They would get a cloak bonus to speed like Blops.
They would use Citadel Torpedoes (with respective bonuses to racial damage type and enough bonus to actually make them useful)
Then they would also get a bonus to a new mod called the heavy bomb The bombs would be useful only against targets that have a sig over 1000m it would be hard wired into the mechanics but would do great splash damage to capital ships.
Also they can jump threw a covert ops jump brige

Sure, I like the idea of giving Caldari another combat battleship and the other races a disruption battleship. But lets stop there. There is absolutely no need for a battleship logi. Logi cruisers already fit large reps. If you want logistics for your battleships use carriers, thats what they are meant for.

Or screw bs logistics and bring out t2 frigate logistics that use medium reps or use cov ops cloaks. BS logistics would suck. Bad. Big ol sig and slow means they cant get to range unless they start there. Unless they offer capital level rr noone will use them.

The caldari attack bs didn't really get my attention but the amarrian ewar bs looks like it would be bloody brilliant. I would call it the "cardinal"

As for BS logi ships I have always thought something like that would be cool. get range bonuses.

When CCP did the Battleship rebalance and thier decision to leave the Scorpion as a "disruption" ship caused the Caldari to only have one completly usless battleship.

the scorpions is the most useless bs atm by far
do you realy want more of this kind?

your caldari ship is pretty much the rokh

What would you suggest? I made it to be a rokh and hype had a baby...

for what reason should the counterparts of the scorpion get weapon bonuses? if you want real counterparts you have to remove weapons slots, not more than 4 of a kind, no bonuses on weapons.
for gallente this could mean only 3 of a kind as it has such a large drone bay.

i dont think we need such ships

I like the general idea, but I don't like some of your designs. Secondary EWAR bonuses (web and scram range) should stay on T2 hulls, that's part of what makes them so specialized. Additionally for target painter and sensor dampener bonuses, not only should they not be combined like that with the secondary EWAR bonuses, but tech 1 hulls only get 7.5% bonuses to those, and even tech 2 hulls only get 7.5% bonuses to sensor dampeners, so your t1 gallente battleship is a better sensor dampener than dedicated t2 EWAR hulls.

I would drop the web and scram bonuses, and drop the primary EWAR bonuses to 7.5%. I would also swap the minmatar bs to missiles and give a missile bonus because of the good synergy with missiles and target painters.

The gallente EWAR drone bonus is really awesome but I garantee people would dump ECM drones on it and with that large bonus you would end up with a really effective gallente ECM boat. Not cool, especially since it still has its own slots for say (bonused) sensor damps. I would change the drone bonus to bonus sensor dampening drones instead of all EWAR drones (I would keep the utility drone bonus though).

The amarr battleship looks awesome and reasonably balanced, the EWAR bonus is of the appropriate size, and while the rate of fire bonus is quite large it also speeds up cap consumption considerably.

The caldari combat battleship overlaps far too heavily with the rokh. Since the raven is an attack battleship, the caldari have no missile combat battleship, why not make it a missile ship? Slower but more durable than the raven, without the raven's range bonus.

I think Support battleships are a cool idea. Slow but much more durable logistics with large reps, probably about equal repair with a t2 logistics cruiser, but trading speed and signature for much more durability and possibly a slight increase in repair.

Your battlecruiser idea is completely unoriginal and has very little to do with everything else in the OP. I suggest you remove it.

The Navy issue is an other story though, I personally like that one.
But yeah, the T1 scorpion is just to mediocre to be useful, It needs more ECM strength and bigger bonus to burst ECM and maybe a little bonus to shield.