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Why are caldari ships so small ?
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#1 - 2013-08-09 19:21:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
This is the story of two ships

One is 1550 meter long
The other is 1025

One is 500 meter of sig radius
The other is 380

One has 89m/s of max velocity
the other has 113m/s

One has more structure than the other.

So, tell me why a smaller ship has a higher sig radius, a smaller speed, and more structure points ?

I thought that small meant quicker, smaller energy emissions, and less structure points... No ?

Obviously we can't change their stats, but I ask for a resize ! Because you know what.. Size matters ! Twisted

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#2 - 2013-08-09 19:25:47 UTC
Altrue wrote:
This is the story of two ships

One is 1550 meter long
The other is 1025

One is 500 meter of sig radius
The other is 380

One has 89m/s of max velocity
the other has 113m/s

One has more structure than the other.

So, tell me why a smaller ship has a higher sig radius, a smaller speed, and more structure points ?

I thought that small meant quicker, smaller energy emissions, and less structure points... No ?

Obviously we can't change their stats, but I ask for a resize ! Because you know what.. Size matters ! Twisted


Which one weighs more, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?

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Sakiya Shiratori
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-08-09 19:25:59 UTC
sig rating has nothing to do with physical size of the ship.

Think of todays modern stealth bomber. Big plane, but on radar it will appear like a medium pack of birds.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2013-08-09 19:27:06 UTC
Sakiya Shiratori wrote:
sig rating has nothing to do with physical size of the ship.

Think of todays modern stealth bomber. Big plane, but on radar it will appear like a medium pack of birds.


And here I was just going to say "quit belly aching", but this does it so much better. Have a like.

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#5 - 2013-08-09 19:29:42 UTC
Yeah.. The apoc must use some kind of camouflage...

Not like if he was using hyperwave-based weapons huh ? Big smile

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-08-09 19:29:45 UTC
It has a higher signature radius, because it emits more things(signals/energy/particles), so it's easier for targeting systems to detect, lock on to and track. It has smaller speed because it has less powerful engines fitted. It has more structure points because the structure is constructed in a more durable way.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#7 - 2013-08-09 19:31:00 UTC
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#8 - 2013-08-09 19:33:08 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Altrue wrote:
This is the story of two ships

One is 1550 meter long
The other is 1025

One is 500 meter of sig radius
The other is 380

One has 89m/s of max velocity
the other has 113m/s

One has more structure than the other.

So, tell me why a smaller ship has a higher sig radius, a smaller speed, and more structure points ?

I thought that small meant quicker, smaller energy emissions, and less structure points... No ?

Obviously we can't change their stats, but I ask for a resize ! Because you know what.. Size matters ! Twisted


Which one weighs more, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?


Bricks do, feathers are quite expensive.

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Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#9 - 2013-08-09 19:34:16 UTC
The real question is "Why are Caldari ships so ugly?"

*finger snaps, head snaking*
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#10 - 2013-08-09 19:34:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
It has a higher signature radius, because it emits more things(signals/energy/particles), [...] It has smaller speed because it has less powerful engines fitted.


Sorry, what do amarr use as a weapon system ?

Also, don't you think that powerfull engines means more emissions ?

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Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-08-09 19:35:43 UTC
yep, signature radius is the electronic footprint of the ship.

...would be kind of neat if ships had the ability to temporarily 'go dark' to reduce said footprint, of course that would lead to all sorts of new and tear worthy methods of play I'm sure.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2013-08-09 19:39:25 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Sorry, what do amarr use as a weapon system ?
You're not locking on to their weapon system.

Quote:
Also, don't you think that powerfull engines means more emissions ?
Nah. Especially not in the energy band used by radios, active graviton sensors, and shield emitters.
Vipre Morte
Team JK
#13 - 2013-08-09 19:45:18 UTC
Posting in a stealth "nerf cloak afk" thread.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#14 - 2013-08-09 19:46:05 UTC
Caldari ships are shield tankers, so naturally their hulls don't have to be as big to support all that Armor plating or extra hull bulkheads compared to Amarr or Gallente ships.

But what about the minmatar ships? Well, those only look slightly bigger and bulkier, but that is due to all that extra scaffolding that was left on the ship when it left the shipyard. Minmatar engineers looked at the ship when it was being assembled, and simply ordered the welders to weld the scaffolding to the hull. It may look ugly, but think of all the time it saves when the ship goes in for maintainence!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#15 - 2013-08-09 19:55:23 UTC
Klymer wrote:
yep, signature radius is the electronic footprint of the ship.

...would be kind of neat if ships had the ability to temporarily 'go dark' to reduce said footprint, of course that would lead to all sorts of new and tear worthy methods of play I'm sure.


As long as they're not AFK when they go dark, all will be well.

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Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-08-09 22:02:35 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Altrue wrote:
Sorry, what do amarr use as a weapon system ?
You're not locking on to their weapon system.

Quote:
Also, don't you think that powerfull engines means more emissions ?
Nah. Especially not in the energy band used by radios, active graviton sensors, and shield emitters.


Ok lets compare what makes you more detectable for a second here,

Look at a asteroid with lasers on it shooting out, even towards you, then look at a lava asteroid and tell me even without any lasers how much more you can see it.

That's basically shields for dummy's.
Daisai
Daisai Investments.
#17 - 2013-08-09 22:06:27 UTC
Altrue wrote:
This is the story of two ships

One is 1550 meter long
The other is 1025

One is 500 meter of sig radius
The other is 380

One has 89m/s of max velocity
the other has 113m/s

One has more structure than the other.

So, tell me why a smaller ship has a higher sig radius, a smaller speed, and more structure points ?

I thought that small meant quicker, smaller energy emissions, and less structure points... No ?

Obviously we can't change their stats, but I ask for a resize ! Because you know what.. Size matters ! Twisted


Game balance and realism dont mix, you need to give and take on that part.
MacKael
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-08-09 22:13:00 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Altrue wrote:
This is the story of two ships

One is 1550 meter long
The other is 1025

One is 500 meter of sig radius
The other is 380

One has 89m/s of max velocity
the other has 113m/s

One has more structure than the other.

So, tell me why a smaller ship has a higher sig radius, a smaller speed, and more structure points ?

I thought that small meant quicker, smaller energy emissions, and less structure points... No ?

Obviously we can't change their stats, but I ask for a resize ! Because you know what.. Size matters ! Twisted


Which one weighs more, a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers?



No the quote is. "Which weighs more? A pound of gold or a pound of feathers? And if you dropped them both off of the tallest building in the world, at the same time. Which would land first.
MacKael
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-08-09 22:14:03 UTC
Vipre Morte wrote:
Posting in a stealth "nerf cloak afk" thread.



Wrong. It's a EvE is dying thread.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#20 - 2013-08-09 22:23:57 UTC
MacKael wrote:
Vipre Morte wrote:
Posting in a stealth "nerf cloak afk" thread.



Wrong. It's a EvE is dying thread.


Girls, girls, youre both wrong.

This is clearly a Y U NERF HEAVY MISSILEZ?!??!?111?one!/11 thread.

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