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knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-08-09 14:45:07 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


Not sure if serious. I'm bad at eve and even I know what you suggest is anything but elite PvP.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-08-09 14:48:43 UTC
AtheistOfFail wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


Not sure if you're trolling here...


You're new here, amirite?

Don't ban me, bro!
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-08-09 14:52:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?



They're supposed to gain a real pair of balls and engage fleets of their size and numbers -one kill here and there ok happens with stupids watching local climb and don't get safe.

Are you an alt of R&K? -they're specialists in what you just described, I'm sure they made a video of their elitness some where at some point. Otherwise ask low sec dudes advice, they're also very strong on solo elite pvp with solo falcon solo double logi and solo double T3 boosting inside the dangerous POS shields.

edit (forgot to note this awesome thread) -10/10

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E'ara Koshun
The Order of the golden Sun
#44 - 2013-08-09 15:21:52 UTC
Big smile
10+ vs 1 makes you an elite pvper?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#45 - 2013-08-09 15:33:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?




So some people refer to elite PVP as dropping lokis, guardians, and ashimmus on a kestrel.


Am I the only one who caught that reading the OP?


I think we are being trolled. But I'm not.... sure... I kinda feel it.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-08-09 15:41:31 UTC
E'ara Koshun wrote:
Big smile
10+ vs 1 makes you an elite pvper?



Exactly, Elite pvp is all about green KB wit little possible losses. Everything goes from paved KBs of cyno frigs shuttles and haulers to cruisers/BC's kills with all previous "Elite skills" listed above.

That's the Eve elite game play style, every one else is just a stupid carebear having no idea what pvp is or unskilled.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#47 - 2013-08-09 18:58:42 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
E'ara Koshun wrote:
10+ vs 1 makes you an elite pvper?

Exactly, Elite pvp is all about green KB wit little possible losses. Everything goes from paved KBs of cyno frigs shuttles and haulers to cruisers/BC's kills with all previous "Elite skills" listed above.

That's the Eve elite game play style, every one else is just a stupid carebear having no idea what pvp is or unskilled.

Mm, green killboards.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#48 - 2013-08-09 19:04:56 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


You are totally clueless about what "elite PvP" entails and should just stop posting because you are embarrassing yourself.

4 Lokis, 4 Guardians and 2 Ashimmus against a Kestrel? LOL! What are you going to do if the Kestrel bans your Lokis? Kill him with armor reps?

He'll probably just circle the arena and wait for your bad pilots to commit a boundary violation and win by default. In short, the comp you just described is pretty damn bad, whereas I have a strong feeling the lone-Kestrel comp has got a dozen tricks up its sleeve that will devastate your team long before time expires.

And don't get me started on your Vindi/Bhaal comp. You'd get eaten alive by true elite PvPers in AHACs supported by logi. That Thorax is probably also boasting an elite PvP fit (otherwise why only bring one?)

In short, you clearly do not understand elite PvP.

Also, your troll was objectively worse than mine.

I am not an alt of Chribba.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-08-09 19:10:11 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site.


Hummm , i knew it !! the definition Of elite PvP , DAMNNN !!!!

Ps : i hope with this set up you have an OGB too ? !!


I thought everyone knew? "Elite" has stood f or loser scrub for about 8 years now.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-08-09 19:18:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Caviar Liberta
Post was a good laugh so I give it high marks for comedy content here. Now to a more serious note. Those of us in Faction Warfare love it when someone new to the idea of FW tries to get their ships into a plex that won't allow them in.

Example, While were in a frigate roam the local spikes with the 0.0 flavor of the month so we go into the a novice plex and roll our eyes.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#51 - 2013-08-09 20:32:46 UTC
"Elite" "PvP".

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#52 - 2013-08-09 21:14:53 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Post was a good laugh so I give it high marks for comedy content here. Now to a more serious note. Those of us in Faction Warfare love it when someone new to the idea of FW tries to get their ships into a plex that won't allow them in.

Example, While were in a frigate roam the local spikes with the 0.0 flavor of the month so we go into the a novice plex and roll our eyes.

Delicious. Can we perhaps learn to put gates on our sov structures, this would really help.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#53 - 2013-08-09 21:37:02 UTC
Excellent post, OP wins! Pirate
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#54 - 2013-08-09 22:33:25 UTC
Elite Post Vs Post

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#55 - 2013-08-09 23:18:54 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
E'ara Koshun wrote:
10+ vs 1 makes you an elite pvper?

Exactly, Elite pvp is all about green KB wit little possible losses. Everything goes from paved KBs of cyno frigs shuttles and haulers to cruisers/BC's kills with all previous "Elite skills" listed above.

That's the Eve elite game play style, every one else is just a stupid carebear having no idea what pvp is or unskilled.

Mm, green killboards.


Everyone knows green kb = good alliance.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Isaak Artorius
Perkone
Caldari State
#56 - 2013-08-10 03:46:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Isaak Artorius
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


And that is how you define elite PVP? What you suggest is up there with gatecamps and station games. Or you merely a common troll? Troll it is. Stay in the dungeon. - Prof. McGonagall

I am for sale! 74M SP Tengu/Industrial/R&D Pilot!

Felicity Love
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-08-10 03:56:06 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.



I see what you did there. Well spotted, sir.

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#58 - 2013-08-10 05:51:28 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
E'ara Koshun wrote:
10+ vs 1 makes you an elite pvper?

Exactly, Elite pvp is all about green KB wit little possible losses. Everything goes from paved KBs of cyno frigs shuttles and haulers to cruisers/BC's kills with all previous "Elite skills" listed above.

That's the Eve elite game play style, every one else is just a stupid carebear having no idea what pvp is or unskilled.

Mm, green killboards.

Everyone knows green kb = good alliance.

Yeah. Good to know.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#59 - 2013-08-11 09:16:35 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


facking hell , you want kill a kestrel with that??? wouw you must be trolling , calling yourselve elite is kinda dumb

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2013-08-11 09:41:47 UTC
Does Chribba do elite pvp mining veldspar ?