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EVE Online: Revolution (0.0 THEME FOR WINTER EXPANSION)

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Sigras
Conglomo
#121 - 2013-08-09 10:01:35 UTC
Ashina Sito wrote:
Sigras wrote:

Lastly, sov should not be based on PvE, for example, NC. was deployed to fountain to assist TEST, the whole alliance basically did nothing with their space for months; should they be punished for that?

Simple answer, yes.

AFK ownership is a bad thing. Holding sov should be the same as holding NPC space. You have to live there to "own" it.

Ironic that the only sov space that is working right is Providence.

So youre telling me that if I am pandemic legion, and I have no interest in PvE but I want sov for cyno jammers, jump bridges and or manufacturing bonuses, I am forced into PvE ratting or something even though in PvP i waste everyone who comes into my space?

yeah thats great.
Sigras
Conglomo
#122 - 2013-08-09 10:02:48 UTC
Emily Jean McKenna wrote:
Jason Shaishi wrote:
KIATolon wrote:
I think that hi-sec SHOULD be significantly nerfed, as should wormholes


While I 100% agree that high-sec should be nerfed, I am puzzled as to why you think wormholes should be nerfed. There are mechanics which should be implemented to make people to want to enter wormholes more (I say this because the entirety of C6 wormholes are dead but for SYJ) and to make wormhole life more interesting, but nerf them? I don't see a reason to.

Nerf nothing, buff everything else.

yeah because power creep isnt a thing . . .
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#123 - 2013-08-09 10:22:32 UTC
Sigras wrote:
Ashina Sito wrote:
Sigras wrote:

Lastly, sov should not be based on PvE, for example, NC. was deployed to fountain to assist TEST, the whole alliance basically did nothing with their space for months; should they be punished for that?

Simple answer, yes.

AFK ownership is a bad thing. Holding sov should be the same as holding NPC space. You have to live there to "own" it.

Ironic that the only sov space that is working right is Providence.

So youre telling me that if I am pandemic legion, and I have no interest in PvE but I want sov for cyno jammers, jump bridges and or manufacturing bonuses, I am forced into PvE ratting or something even though in PvP i waste everyone who comes into my space?

yeah thats great.



No man is an island...

Woo! CSM XI!

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xttz
GSF Logistics and Posting Reserves
Goonswarm Federation
#124 - 2013-08-09 10:51:21 UTC
Sigras wrote:
Ashina Sito wrote:
Sigras wrote:

Lastly, sov should not be based on PvE, for example, NC. was deployed to fountain to assist TEST, the whole alliance basically did nothing with their space for months; should they be punished for that?

Simple answer, yes.

AFK ownership is a bad thing. Holding sov should be the same as holding NPC space. You have to live there to "own" it.

Ironic that the only sov space that is working right is Providence.

So youre telling me that if I am pandemic legion, and I have no interest in PvE but I want sov for cyno jammers, jump bridges and or manufacturing bonuses, I am forced into PvE ratting or something even though in PvP i waste everyone who comes into my space?

yeah thats great.


Yep, to own sov you should definitely be the best at ratting. There is no other possible reason to own your own space than wanting to PvE. Because as we all know, EVE is a dedicated PvE simulator.
Atlantis Fuanan
Wormhole Research Inc.
#125 - 2013-08-09 11:03:39 UTC
Like, CSM and Devs, srsly consider this! (That guy already has done lot of work for ya)

[u]Things that would make EVE better:[/u] NRDS - Remove Local - Balance Cloak - Sov-Mechanic Changes - Less QQ
The Mach
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2013-08-09 16:58:15 UTC
+1 read it all, and i see a couple issues that CCP could easily fix when implementing.

I know its touchy subject but something must be done.
eddict
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#127 - 2013-08-09 17:04:42 UTC
please make it happen
Zurin Arctus
Trauma Ward
#128 - 2013-08-09 17:27:24 UTC
Quote:
-Remove sov bills, only cost is for the TCU.
-Constellation wide rather than system wide.


In hindsight I should have stopped reading there.

Massive defender advantage in sov warfare. Alarm-clocking even more necessary to take sov. Insane grinds for dubious bonuses. Anomalies that require blobs. NPC null residents forced to be pirate pets.

This is total dreck - an expansion made purely for the benefit of the few largest alliances in EVE.
Jack bubu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#129 - 2013-08-09 18:08:52 UTC
Zurin Arctus wrote:
Quote:
-Remove sov bills, only cost is for the TCU.
-Constellation wide rather than system wide.


In hindsight I should have stopped reading there.

Massive defender advantage in sov warfare. Alarm-clocking even more necessary to take sov. Insane grinds for dubious bonuses. Anomalies that require blobs. NPC null residents forced to be pirate pets.

This is total dreck - an expansion made purely for the benefit of the few largest alliances in EVE.

n1, you literally didnt understand anything he posted.

(hint its the exact opposite of what you are saying)
Blastil
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#130 - 2013-08-09 18:43:13 UTC
Sigras wrote:
Ashina Sito wrote:
Sigras wrote:

Lastly, sov should not be based on PvE, for example, NC. was deployed to fountain to assist TEST, the whole alliance basically did nothing with their space for months; should they be punished for that?

Simple answer, yes.

AFK ownership is a bad thing. Holding sov should be the same as holding NPC space. You have to live there to "own" it.

Ironic that the only sov space that is working right is Providence.

So youre telling me that if I am pandemic legion, and I have no interest in PvE but I want sov for cyno jammers, jump bridges and or manufacturing bonuses, I am forced into PvE ratting or something even though in PvP i waste everyone who comes into my space?

yeah thats great.


I feel that a much more healthy 0.0 would be made by forcing alliances to manage PVE activities to participate in pvp. if you dont' want to do it yourself, then you will need to recruit people who do want to do it, or rent.

I would much rather have a sov system which forced 0.0 entities to manage the space they own, they can't have free money without the responsibility of tending to the money tree. Asking for anything else is petty and dumb.
Zurin Arctus
Trauma Ward
#131 - 2013-08-09 18:44:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Zurin Arctus
Jack bubu wrote:
Zurin Arctus wrote:
Quote:
-Remove sov bills, only cost is for the TCU.
-Constellation wide rather than system wide.


In hindsight I should have stopped reading there.

Massive defender advantage in sov warfare. Alarm-clocking even more necessary to take sov. Insane grinds for dubious bonuses. Anomalies that require blobs. NPC null residents forced to be pirate pets.

This is total dreck - an expansion made purely for the benefit of the few largest alliances in EVE.

n1, you literally didnt understand anything he posted.

(hint its the exact opposite of what you are saying)


Quote:
Owner chooses time that constellation comes out of reinforce.


Hahahaha. Oh wow.

Quote:
Supers and titans are worthless.


Must be why PL uses them so much!


And I understood it fine; his transparent, self-serving doublespeak just wasn't all that compelling to me.

There are bits and pieces of good ideas in his post, but most of it is just a PL kiddie wishing he could rewrite the game's rules to favor his alliance.
Allison A'vani
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#132 - 2013-08-09 20:08:34 UTC
Very good post op.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#133 - 2013-08-09 20:32:43 UTC
Great post with awesome suggestions. I'd love to see the little guys be able to put on the hurt

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#134 - 2013-08-09 21:51:03 UTC
Thanks for the positive feedback everyone!
eVRiAL
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#135 - 2013-08-10 09:49:27 UTC
I have a better way of fixing 0.0

DELETE FROM 'alliances' where 'name' = 'Pandemic Legion'
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#136 - 2013-08-10 22:38:05 UTC
eVRiAL wrote:
I have a better way of fixing 0.0

DELETE FROM 'alliances' where 'name' = 'Pandemic Legion'


no.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#137 - 2013-08-13 23:13:02 UTC
eVRiAL wrote:
I have a better way of fixing 0.0

DELETE FROM 'alliances' where 'name' = 'Pandemic Legion'


If only it were that easy
Loki Feiht
Warcrows
THE OLD SCHOOL
#138 - 2013-08-14 00:28:35 UTC
I still think there should be solo content available in nullsec but I do like OP's thread +1

More NPC - Randomly Generated Modular Content thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=220858
Mouse Surfingbird
USSR Zero Detachment
Peacemakers. Coalition
#139 - 2013-08-15 06:35:11 UTC
I approve
coolzero
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#140 - 2013-08-16 00:00:55 UTC
i like!!