Player Features and Ideas Discussion

fairly sure a bump would deal with that, if it doesn't move it isn't real.

atlernatively when you consider it's basicly a model of a ship, it could become apparent it is a decoy within 2500 (as with decloaking)

eitherway it's a playful idea that would have alot of interesting applications.

Friendly bump. Gizznitt sent this to me and the more I think about it, the more I like it.

The EULA Violation is rather interesting... Something I didn't even consider.

I disagree that the module is a "Eula" violation. This is an anchored object that you cannot communicate with, because it doesn't communicate. As such, the module itself doesn't actually impersonate another player, although I recognize this as a fine line.

Now, this module might make it easier for the unscrupulous to effectively violate the Eula: For example, I might say Gizznitt Malikite is really Chribba's alt (which is not true), and I could use this module to put a decoy ship with Chribba's name on grid next to me, thereby potentially giving more credence to "my impersonation" or "falsely representing his or her identity".

It is something to consider, but I also don't think this makes the module inappropriate.

Impersonating a character?

Ethically, and as a result the required burden of proof, would require that the intention to impersonate is done in order to perpetrate a fraud.
Now, to be a crime subject to ethical concerns, that fraud has to be against game rules in the first place.

Blowing up a ship: as intended. No action contributing to this can be held as a crime.
Stealing ISK: as intended. No action contributing to this can be held as a crime.

You would need to cross over into verifiable harassment for this to be a concern.
Otherwise, you just broke Halloween.

As to lag, missiles and drones have more impact.
Any object not directly controlled by a character would have no more impact than these on the server.

Actually, you don't need the object at all.

You just need to put a name into local.

No ship required, active imaginations seem to handle the remaining details.

lol.... afk the ultimate afk cloaker weapon.... I'm not really in system or logged in, but you think I am.... The nullbear tears would cause another world-wide flood.

Unfortunately, this line of discussion is sidetracking the original idea. Although it makes room for the third decoy version: The decoy pilot in local.... I highly doubt ccp is about to address / alter anything that dramatically influences local, so I don't think this version is something they'd pursue.

I... like this idea. I actually quite like this idea a lot.


However, what I will say is these things will need a hard limit to how many you can deploy.

Reason being is these things WILL be abused in high lag situations to create more lag, as it is essentially creating another player with standings, hitpoints, etc.

I'm imagining the scene in i-robot where they are looking through hundreds of robots for the one actual badass robot.

I would be that badass robot.

With creative tools, you get creative tactics.

Cyno up, start dropping cap ship decoys, watch as the enemy scrambles to system even though it's only my Pilgrim trolling.

IMHO decoy ships should just appear in local as random people from your corp. Meaning if you deploy too many decoys you run the risk of 2 identical people showing up in local.

Loving the idea, though.