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SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-08-09 13:01:23 UTC
^ you are deceiving!!!! Shocked

I disagree
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#42 - 2013-08-09 13:10:30 UTC
There is nobody above you

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2013-08-09 13:12:34 UTC
There is no one below me either

I disagree
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#44 - 2013-08-09 13:13:08 UTC
LOL rock on Harry.Cool
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#45 - 2013-08-09 13:15:27 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
lockon to fleet members should be removable by the fleetcommander

after leaving fleet there should be a 1-5 minute timer, where you are not able to lockon to old fleetmembers either

at the moment there are too many douchebags who do not get kills and just try to fleetup with others and then start shooting them...

this would assure more random people team up, good for the game, bad for douchebags... win win



Clearly you don't understand this game.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#46 - 2013-08-09 13:17:29 UTC


Play nice, otherwise
I will have to lock, report
I would rather not.


Snipped out derogatory language from some posts.
Please keep posts constructive to the conversation at hand and do not engage in personal attacks.

ISD Cura Ursus

Lieutenant Commander

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-08-09 13:33:14 UTC
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:


Play nice, otherwise
I will have to lock, report
I would rather not.


Snipped out derogatory language from some posts.
Please keep posts constructive to the conversation at hand and do not engage in personal attacks.

even ISD deceiving here 'some', just Harry's offensive post.

I disagree
Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#48 - 2013-08-09 13:35:25 UTC
Did the carebear get killed by fleet members posing as "friends"? P

Twitch streamer and EVE NT tournament broadcaster.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-08-09 13:50:57 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Leafar Nightfall wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

nobody needs to use the option if they don't want to, if I'm commander I want to use it, because i want to fly with different people and try stuff, stupid doches shooting fleetmembers just hold back the gameplay, those need to be stopable by a mechanic

fleeting up is for teaming up, not for shooting ourselves, the mechanic should work like this

the people who want to fight can do that without fleeting up as well

the game is favouring idiotic gameplay too much, in my opinion


The game is know for its free environment. If people want to lie to get fleeted and them shoot the fleet members out, they are allowed to. Changing this is changing the game essence. If you have the option to turn that off, this affects other people gameplay directly, since they won't be allowed to do this anymore. You don't invite people to your house if you don't know them, so you shouldn't fleet with people you don't trust enough to do so.

That's not idiotic gameplay, this is sandbox, free gameplay, the same mechanic that allows us to choose a corp at random, go to their home and shoot down their stuff without consequence


I know you want random fleet ups and fair PvP, so why don't you try FW? FW is "Team Deathmatch", null is "Free for all"


trust me its needed, to assure new players can fleetup and try stuff, at the moment they are just cannon fodder to those older players who want to get an easy kill by fleeting up with newbs... you need to protect those, to assure they can get into the game faster and without frustration

this game is hold up by mechanics favouring douchebags, nothing more... I mean i dont mind i just go on you know, but it holds back a lot of other players...




You could form a corp, that way you can protect your newbies from us evil vets.

........because none of us have more than one account, ever ever ever.
Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#50 - 2013-08-09 14:16:58 UTC
Harry you want this game to be something it isn't. Actually, you want something you won't get in any other MMO game

There weren't people enough in your first event to take down Goonswarm, so you gave up and said the few of us were fine enough and gave up on the events.
You saw this wasn't firepower enough, so you ask for a nuke that you can use playing alone.
You get betrayed (which is the essence of the game btw, knowing who you can trust) and you want a mechanism to stop this

You set a huge milestone in your first month in the game and now you are pissed of because its mechanics won't allow you to achieve it easily. You want to have right now something that would take literaly years of planning, and since you can't you want to change a decade old mechanic to allow you.

Sorry pal, that ain't gonna happen, not in this game nor in any other. You should try games like Counter Strike where most of the time only you own skill matter, but you can't change what a game is about.
ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#51 - 2013-08-09 14:19:31 UTC
SKINE DMZ wrote:
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:


Play nice, otherwise
I will have to lock, report
I would rather not.


Snipped out derogatory language from some posts.
Please keep posts constructive to the conversation at hand and do not engage in personal attacks.

even ISD deceiving here 'some', just Harry's offensive post.


1. I take personal affront to this statement. I did not deceive. I edited more than just 1 comment, but to preserve the thread I took care to not just slice and dice by just deleting the post and all that followed.

2. This treads dangerously close to discussing forum moderation.

ISD Cura Ursus

Lieutenant Commander

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#52 - 2013-08-09 14:23:52 UTC
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:
2. This treads dangerously close to discussing forum moderation.
It's also dangerously close to being in the wrong forum, since it's a “Feature and idea” kind of topic. The only think that really keeps it from being that is its blatant trollish nature…

Taking bets now: move before lock or lock before move?
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2013-08-09 14:30:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Leafar Nightfall wrote:
Harry you want this game to be something it isn't. Actually, you want something you won't get in any other MMO game

There weren't people enough in your first event to take down Goonswarm, so you gave up and said the few of us were fine enough and gave up on the events.
You saw this wasn't firepower enough, so you ask for a nuke that you can use playing alone.
You get betrayed (which is the essence of the game btw, knowing who you can trust) and you want a mechanism to stop this

You set a huge milestone in your first month in the game and now you are pissed of because its mechanics won't allow you to achieve it easily. You want to have right now something that would take literaly years of planning, and since you can't you want to change a decade old mechanic to allow you.

Sorry pal, that ain't gonna happen, not in this game nor in any other. You should try games like Counter Strike where most of the time only you own skill matter, but you can't change what a game is about.


"this is EvE" i know that statement, I'm just telling you, that statement is holding it back... EvE could be so much more

people prefer cavemanstyle gameplay over a real society that could unfold... too sad

I think you have no clue about what I'm fighting for, maybe you should move over to the other side

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#54 - 2013-08-09 14:37:24 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

"this is EvE" i know that statement, I'm just telling you, that statement is holding it back... EvE could be so much more

people prefer cavemanstyle gameplay over a real society that could unfold... too sad


That IS real society... people stab others in the back more frequently than anyone would like. Go to an underdeveloped country where nobody is watching and see if things aren't far worse then what happens in null.

I don't see what more EvE could be, there's an average of thirty thousand folks online everyday in the week and almost sixty thousand in weekend peeks. It can grow but it is not taking this direction.

Already told you, you want fair pvp with "safe" and random fleet ups? Join Factional Warfare. There's penalty for shooting fleet members if they are from your faction afaik and there is a common goal to random folks.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-08-09 14:37:35 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:


"this is EvE" i know that statement, I'm just telling you, that statement is holding it back... EvE could be so much more

people prefer cavemenstyle gameplay over a real society that could unfold... too sad



If you don't shut up I'm going to start putting my alts in your fleets, they can be a bit.....erm triggerhappy


That being said, welcome to eve, spying, scamming, back-stabbing and double dealing is all part of the game, entire coalitions have been brought down by it......so you should shouldn't be surprised that it happening with your un-backchecked random pack of high sec bears (and null dudes alts)

The reigning thought on the matter is "why didn't I think of that." If you don't want to deal with such affairs, feel free to form your own corp so you can require a history check.

That being said, this is a sandbox game, might makes right, and frankly you aren't very mighty. You want Eve to play the way you envision it, you have to be able to enforce your vision on Eve...and survive.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2013-08-09 14:41:09 UTC
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:


Play nice, otherwise
I will have to lock, report
I would rather not.


Snipped out derogatory language from some posts.
Please keep posts constructive to the conversation at hand and do not engage in personal attacks.

even ISD deceiving here 'some', just Harry's offensive post.


1. I take personal affront to this statement. I did not deceive. I edited more than just 1 comment, but to preserve the thread I took care to not just slice and dice by just deleting the post and all that followed.

2. This treads dangerously close to discussing forum moderation.


I am talking about deceiving, you are trying to get me to talk about illegal matters and frankly I am personally offended.

I disagree
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-08-09 14:41:57 UTC
Dear Harry: Go Away.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2013-08-09 14:43:04 UTC
Leafar Nightfall wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

"this is EvE" i know that statement, I'm just telling you, that statement is holding it back... EvE could be so much more

people prefer cavemanstyle gameplay over a real society that could unfold... too sad


That IS real society... people stab others in the back more frequently than anyone would like. Go to an underdeveloped country where nobody is watching and see if things aren't far worse then what happens in null.

I don't see what more EvE could be, there's an average of thirty thousand folks online everyday in the week and almost sixty thousand in weekend peeks. It can grow but it is not taking this direction.

Already told you, you want fair pvp with "safe" and random fleet ups? Join Factional Warfare. There's penalty for shooting fleet members if they are from your faction afaik and there is a common goal to random folks.


again, if you want to do FW, do it, but trust me I know what I want to do and I'm doing it... I don't tell you what to do either, so stop it now

there are rules in developed societies, and there are reason for those rules, if people want to stay animals fine, I still will fight for humanity

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-08-09 14:43:57 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
stupid doches shooting fleetmembers just hold back the gameplay, those need to be stopable by a mechanic



There is a mechanic to stop it. It's called shooting back.

Don't ban me, bro!
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2013-08-09 14:45:02 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
stupid doches shooting fleetmembers just hold back the gameplay, those need to be stopable by a mechanic



There is a mechanic to stop it. It's called shooting back.


I don't want to hurt those chicken

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm