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Faction Wars is Killing Elite PVP
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#21 - 2013-08-09 10:59:54 UTC
You forgot to whine about how your command ships can't fit through the frigate/destroyer gates, meaning the coming off-grid booster nerf is going to hit you twice as hard. Lol

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Icarius
The Wings of Maak
#22 - 2013-08-09 11:03:00 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:


How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


You are such an elite pvper ... it is why you do not post with your main? 0 records on eve-kill.net with your 2 isk alt
Pierrot le fou
Amarrian Inquist Order
#23 - 2013-08-09 11:03:15 UTC
Too obvious 3/10.
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-08-09 11:07:30 UTC
Lol

6/10
Sol Kal'orr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-08-09 11:13:18 UTC
I'm feeling generous: 8/10
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#26 - 2013-08-09 12:12:11 UTC
Gankers have the same problem in empire.
Can't shoot a miners with a catalyst without Concord intervention.
CCP is protecting the weaks so we can't show up how elite PVPer we are Cry
Raptors Mole
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-08-09 12:20:36 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


As you are minmatar, you could ask the Thorax to ship down?
Tialano Utrigas
Running with Dogs
Northern Coalition.
#28 - 2013-08-09 12:25:47 UTC
The system was implemented to stop d!ckheads like you blobbing hte sh*t out of everything that moves in FW.

Working as intended.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#29 - 2013-08-09 13:40:27 UTC
AtheistOfFail wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


Not sure if you're trolling here...



Not the swiftest gazelle in the herd are you?

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#30 - 2013-08-09 13:46:37 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
AtheistOfFail wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


Not sure if you're trolling here...



Not the swiftest gazelle in the herd are you?


Down where I live we say "that guy is 5 beers short of a 6 pack" Lol
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-08-09 13:48:11 UTC
Pierrot le fou wrote:
Too obvious 3/10.

more like -9000/10.Straight

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flakeys
Doomheim
#32 - 2013-08-09 13:50:12 UTC
Tialano Utrigas wrote:
The system was implemented to stop d!ckheads like you blobbing hte sh*t out of everything that moves in FW.

Working as intended.


And your brain was implemented so you would use it while reading.


NOT working as intended .








Lol

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#33 - 2013-08-09 13:52:28 UTC
Rabid Disconnection wrote:
50/10


FTFY

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#34 - 2013-08-09 13:53:01 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.
Good.
Spergie Scrublord
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-08-09 13:58:30 UTC
Although I understand that the OP is likely trolling, I feel some sympathy for his positition. On the rare occasion that I have to wander into highsec, I inevitably see some noob on a gate in a Venture and I reflexively get on the bat phone to my homies in PL to set up a hotdrop. They always laugh and remind me to call 'em back if he goes into Asakai, but man, it really irritates me the way restrictions on cynos, supers etc. in highsec are ruining elite pvp. I'm positive I'm not alone in this opinion.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#36 - 2013-08-09 14:05:10 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site.


Elite PVP at its best.

Obvious troll is obvious Big smile

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2013-08-09 14:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: tiberiusric
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:



For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


Lol if you need to take all that to kill a kestrel, i would say your not very elite are you?

However there are plenty of corps in lowsec who would happy to fight. But again 4 lokis and 4 guardians most people wouldnt bother, becuase your not actually looking for a fight, rather a pathetic gank on some tiny noob.

elite? pfft.... you want to be elite got to curse or venal or syndicate

seriously im getting tired of hearing whiny pvpers, who cant actually pvp, and just want an easy gank

All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit
Zane Lowe
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-08-09 14:15:40 UTC
Baudolino wrote:
Inokuma Yawara wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death....


But isn't the idea, behind a war, to kill?



War does not equal homocide. Homocide is a bi-product of it.


That's like saying death is a by-product of killing someone. It makes no sense.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-08-09 14:15:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Define "elite PvP"

Because to my way of thinking, top-flight PvP players are the ones who can reliably win (or at least not lose their ship). That's it, that's the whole thing, end of definition. It has precisely zero to say on the subject of what ship people are allowed to fly and where.

Guess what: If you have to whine about how such-and-such a factor is stopping you from being an "elite PvPer"? You weren't one in the first place.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
flakeys
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-08-09 14:22:55 UTC
Thank you OP for this thread , is does attract the more 'braindamaged readers' it seems . Lol

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.