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Radial Menu - action mapping

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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#221 - 2013-08-09 13:25:12 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Garth Dideus Badasaz wrote:
Indalecia wrote:
One very annoying thing is that when the radial menu opens by mistake, it doesn't close itself when you move the mouse far away from it, which is very annoying. As far as I know the only way to close it without doing an action is to hit the escape key, which is odd for a mouse gesture.

EDIT: also, when you do use the action from the radial menu, the pointer warps back to the center of the button you clicked (even when it was not on it), which is counter-intuitive and intrusive in my opinion.


You only need to move the mouse pointer back to the center of the menu and let go of the left mouse button and it will go away, you just have to make sure one of the tiles isn't highlighted when dragging outward.

I think the best way to do it is just right click, and that will kill it (and since this is an old quote, it has some things that have now been changed P)

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#222 - 2013-08-09 13:31:37 UTC
It sure would be nice if "open fleet hangar" were part of the radial menu.

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Sante Ixnay
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#223 - 2013-08-09 15:26:01 UTC
I'm liking the new radial menu a lot, and am using it more and more as time goes by. Very nice work.

I'd be worried about getting my game forum posting privileges revoked though if I didn't include at least a small whine. So...

Gesture up on a station = dock.
Gesture up on a gate = jump.
Gesture up on a planet = WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH MY UI, PLANETARY INTERACTION IS WHAT EXACTLY???? O MY POOR POOR POD WITH ITS PRECIOUS 6% AUTOCANNON CAPACITOR USE IMPLANTS WOE IS ME!!

I understand why you didn't make gesture up "Warp To" as that as it'd be inconsistent with the other celestials. However, it still seems an odd place to put a relatively specialized thing like Planet View, -particularly- since the icon looks like some sort of "move to" action.

So my suggestion would be either to move Planet View--straight down (targeting) or the secondary menu seem like reasonable options--or to change the icon. Or both.

Thanks for listening.
Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#224 - 2013-08-09 15:47:58 UTC
have literally never used it

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Calzan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#225 - 2013-08-09 19:13:35 UTC
Great stuff, I use it all the time.

I'd like clicking my capacitor to prompt radial menu for ship related things (bookmark this spot, ship speed (0% > 100%), that sort of thing.

Click and Drag to set distance works great, I'd like the ceiling of that feature to be higher, much higher - say 200k for orbit and 'keep at'; for 'warp to' I'd like the max to be 100k.
Keldor Eternia
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#226 - 2013-08-09 22:16:45 UTC
On my orca I want "open fleet hangar" to be in the radial menu.
Isaak Artorius
Perkone
Caldari State
#227 - 2013-08-10 03:53:27 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Hi all,

I hope we are all liking Odyssey and all it brings, and of course that we are all using the new Radial Menu Smile

I wanted to check in with you guys, and see if how it was treating you and if you have any comments on the actions we have in it.Smile
  • Have you run into any objects in space that have no primary action but you wish they did?
  • Are there objects that you wished had a different primary action?
  • Do you feel any objects are missing very commonly used actions (either as primary action, or in second layer).


We have put a lot of thought into the Radial Menu actions and are fairly happy with it as it is today. We do recognized that we might have missed some actions and would like to hear your thoughts, and then evaluate if we should make some minor changes Smile



Edit: this is not thread about you wanting to disable it, it's already possible to increase the delay and bind it to a different key so it really shouldn't get in your way if you don't want it Smile


I love the new radial menu. Using it more and more since the changes. The only annoying thing I noticed is that when drag/drop (sorting) locked targets I don't want the radial menu to pop up. Any way of mitigating that. I use the radial menu more in the overview than any thing else.

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Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#228 - 2013-08-10 05:58:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Oreb Wing
I use a lot of the custom A S D and F keys and bind my Scanner to Alt+D. The radial menu works great, only with that some of the buttons when you click on yourself could be different. For instance, instead of having a warp to or keep range button for myself, maybe it could be open hanger. If the system opened up a special menu for different things, then people trying to access a POS or POCO or Orca, could all get what they want. And a Titan could screw up jumps in many different ways. :) If the there was a center button that refreshed D-scan, that would be awesome as well, because anyone that spams that won't hurt anything if they did it unintentionally, and you could virtually have instant access to new information even as you manually pilot. Adding people to fleet from the overview, or to the watchlist, would be the next best thing. Center D-scan refresh button, please!! Otherwise it's just wasted space. Thank you for listening.

edit: Consequently, i have Alt+1 for Cargo; Alt+2 Item Hanger; Alt+3 Ship Hanger. Even the new Unified Inventory changes were welcome with these easy hot-keys.
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#229 - 2013-08-10 16:06:46 UTC
Keep at range for more than 30 kms. Please.

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Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#230 - 2013-08-10 20:56:36 UTC
wow how did I miss this.

action mapping:

if it has a right-click menu item, allow me to assign it a hotkey

I submitted this as an item in the reasonable things topic, #1099

would be greatly appreciated o7

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#231 - 2013-08-11 21:02:06 UTC
I'd like a radial menu for bookmarks ... :/
Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#232 - 2013-08-12 09:57:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Donedy
Please get rid off this radial menu and focus on something else.

Its like you got 2 shittys UIs in the same game instead of 1 good.

This radial menu doesnt bring anything on the contrary, it brings more "wtf, i didnt want this thing when clicking here and it keeps showing up, how do i get rid of that".

Check Drone UI for instance, this needs a lot of work.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#233 - 2013-08-12 16:13:43 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
I'd like a radial menu for bookmarks ... :/

Funny thing you mention that....link to a thread where I say what stuff we are doing for Odyssey 1.1.

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Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#234 - 2013-08-12 22:48:46 UTC
Allow to switch it off please.
MystLynx
Lulzsec Space
#235 - 2013-08-13 10:06:42 UTC
Ubat Batuk wrote:
Allow to switch it off please.

At least, yeah.

As tu use it, to get rid off it, its counter intuitive.
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#236 - 2013-08-13 10:09:23 UTC
Donedy wrote:
Please get rid off this radial menu and focus on something else.

Its like you got 2 shittys UIs in the same game instead of 1 good.

This radial menu doesnt bring anything on the contrary, it brings more "wtf, i didnt want this thing when clicking here and it keeps showing up, how do i get rid of that".

Speak for yourself, many people like it.

Also it shows your lack of skill in even operating the game that apparently you never found the option where you can set a really long delay for the radial menu... so long that it's basically the same as switching it off.

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Jumpshot244
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#237 - 2013-08-13 15:44:16 UTC
Just a thought

1. Take an hour off of work on the radial menu
2. Add a "Launch Drones" shortcut
3. ?
4. Profit
5. Go back to work on radial menu
Ikech
Godless Horizon.
OnlyFleets.
#238 - 2013-08-13 23:51:18 UTC
Would be cool if we could fleet warp using the radial menu!

Also would be epic if we could use the radial menu on watch list/fleet window for warping to squaddies!

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Nik Succorso
Perkone
Caldari State
#239 - 2013-08-13 23:59:22 UTC
For us wh POS dwellers, having a radial menu option to open the ship maintenance array or corp hangar array would be a nice default action.
Mournful Conciousness
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#240 - 2013-08-14 15:57:43 UTC
Jumpshot244 wrote:
Just a thought

1. Take an hour off of work on the radial menu
2. Add a "Launch Drones" shortcut
3. ?
4. Profit
5. Go back to work on radial menu


THIS!

Make it work on the "groups" of drones. It should have:

* Launch
* Recall
* Orbit Me
* Engage -> submenu target's name and ship type
* Guard -> submenu fleet memeber's name
* Assist -> submenu fleet member's name
* Approach (for when you want to pick up your sentries)

If you do this I will finally start using the radial menu

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