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My research project for work, into SOMER Blink - Loved every minute.

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Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-08-09 09:46:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Inokuma Yawara
Fal Dara wrote:
It wouldnt even HAVE to be a scam to make obscene isk.

every blink is profit. It need not even go beyond that, for them to pocket billions a day.

You present little to no actual evidence to back up your idea that this is a scam.

So some one deposits 10b. So what? Maybe it's some guy in southern itally that makes millions a year--and he dropped 300$ on plex that day--which was significantly less than he just spent on the bottle of wine he drank while playing the game.

you might say some one wins 90% of the blinks they play--you didnt say that they also didnt play 90% of the tickets in a blink. Many do, on cap ships (just shy of the ship cost itself).

What if gambling on websites for rl cash is illegal in their country/state, and this is their only outlet? Sure, winning may not get them RL fame and fortune, but EVE fortunes can feel quite important nonetheless.

It doesnt have to be a scam at all, to make more isk than most alliances make alltogether.

if it was a scam on TOP of that--well, some one would come up with some hard evidence.


Wait for his 30 page report before you say he has no evidence.... But we have to wait for this 30 page report.... How long before this 30 day report is published? Hmmm.... Lots of typos, misspells, and other flubs in his post... That sounds like a lot of proof reading... It could be days, weeks, months even, before we get to see that report.... Months! I don't think I can wait that long.... We'll just leave it at "he has no evidence" and forget about it. Mmkay?

Watch this space.  New exciting signature in development.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#42 - 2013-08-09 10:04:12 UTC
I thought everyone knew SOMER was a scam? No denying that you can get lucky and beat the house though! Cool
Also, i look forward to reading this 30 page report!

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:

Whats next? Proving that Erotica1 is a scam too?


Someone already did that. Shocked

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Sarah McKnobbo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-08-09 11:22:26 UTC
Delete as appropriate:

10/10 for the replies you managed to get

OR

0/10 for 'stating the bleeding obvious'

Lotto site makes money? Who knew Shocked
flakeys
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-08-09 11:44:14 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Sirinda wrote:

@flakeys: You have no idea how science works, do you?




I do , every week i hear on the radio how some team studied X or Y and think to myself : ' That's **** anyone who uses logic can think off , another pile of cash thrown away instead of using it for reall research' .

So much stuff out there that actually NEEDS to be researched and here we are , spotting mondane stuff people do on a daily base wich only ends to a logic conclusion and doesn't help at all on the bigger scale.The worst part is it even makes the news headlines ...


Humanity a waste wasting away right?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Cipio Alduin
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#45 - 2013-08-09 12:19:55 UTC
Well it's nice to know that when i choose to share some work with the eve community

I simply get trolled and abused

How apt and immature
Hoo Yodaad
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-08-09 12:30:01 UTC
You know Hal Lindley over there? Work with him at all?
flakeys
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-08-09 12:35:32 UTC
Cipio Alduin wrote:
Well it's nice to know that when i choose to share some work with the eve community

I simply get trolled and abused

How apt and immature


Your the guy who made that thread about the corp that was 7 days old and had a wardec right?

You asked that one to be locked and i assume because you did not like the responses there.


Look , eve forums are a reflection of the game.As such most -like me - behave in a 'direct' way .We say what's on our mind , a lot of times without thinking it through i admit that , and we don't put it in a nice bouquet but in a blender when we throw it out here.

You shared something from your work wich you felt was something nice as a contribution , i get that and indeed it ain't no fun if people don't appreciate that effort.However it does not mean that since you put work into it , wich you got paid for btw as you said, that we should agree on it.

In short the responses you got might come over harsh or let's just say eve-ish but if you would translate those words in a nice fluffy way it would just mean that a lot of people simply are saying that your work was allready done before you started.

You should not take it personal it is just how the general behaviour is on this forum.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-08-09 12:37:17 UTC
Of course it's a fix. The house is also betting (via alts), so the house wins a good number of its own blinks. That doesn't mean you don't also have a chance of winning as the odds are still 1/8 for the small stuff and 1/16 for the big stuff (sometimes other odds) but over the course of time the house will always win and your account will regress to the mean, which is lower than break-even (I don't know what it actually is).

Listen people, don't gamble your hard earned isk on Sommerblink. It's addictive and eventually it's going to clean you out.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#49 - 2013-08-09 12:39:54 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Scam? Only if you've never, ever considered how a lottery or gambling house works. You shouldn't need months of research and billions of isk to realize that the vast majority of players lose all the money they deposit. This is how SOMER makes money.


Well said. Who in there right mind thinks "gambling" is supposed to be fair or a good way to make money?



Somer blink is pretty damn cool though, I sometimes play at work during my lunch break. Just like in real life when I go to a casino (I usually go to Shreveport, Louisiana, to gamble, Texas doesn't have casinos like that), I deposit at blink what I plan to play with, if I win I segregate the winnings from the "playing money" and when that money is gone, I'm done. The winnings go into my pocket, if there are any.

The people who get so insanely butt hurt at Blink and at real life Casinos are people with no self control, no plan, and a false idea that life is fair and gambling can make anyone other than the house rich. They act like the establishment FORCES them to keep gambling, when in fact it is they who make the choice to continue past a point of common sense.

Unless the casino or blink is pointing a gun at your head, you can always just leave or log out. The gambling addicts and fools should stop blaming others for their poor choices.
Prince Kobol
#50 - 2013-08-09 12:41:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Cipio Alduin wrote:
Well it's nice to know that when i choose to share some work with the eve community

I simply get trolled and abused

How apt and immature



Maybe if you had posted something which was interesting and more importantly, factually correct, then you wouldn't of gotten trolled, however what you posted was utter drivel of the highest order, I mean seriously I have seen better posts on K.Com and that is saying something.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#51 - 2013-08-09 12:49:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Cipio Alduin wrote:
Well it's nice to know that when i choose to share some work with the eve community

I simply get trolled and abused

How apt and immature


Apt yes, but not immature. If you can't take criticism of your criticisms, THAT shows immaturity. Yet grown folks do it all day everyday. They say something stupid, people say "hey dude, that's stupid" and the original speaker gets all mad and insulted, when the most obvious course of action was to not saying something stupid to begin with.

We are (mostly) not children. We know what Blink is. You aren't some messiah of truth against the evil scam known as blink.


Also, anyone else think of the Streisand effect when you read stuff like this. Calling attention to something you think is bad is a good way to make sure that MORE people go and do the thing you think is bad. Cipio Alduin has succeeded in nothing but making Somer RICHER than they otherwise would have been.
Spergie Scrublord
Doomheim
#52 - 2013-08-09 12:54:48 UTC
Cipio Alduin wrote:
Well it's nice to know that when i choose to share some work with the eve community

I simply get trolled and abused

How apt and immature



You are correct. You were abused simply for doing the Lord's work; how awful it is that you have been made into such a victim.

You might as well leave the forums now. bye -bye. Arrow
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-08-09 13:11:15 UTC
I cannot +1 Andrev Nox' posts as much as I want to! Sad

Andrev Nox wrote:

PS - Always Blink on #4. We rigged #4 to always win.


Thanks for the tip. I'll keep this secret for myself!
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-08-09 13:34:04 UTC
I wished i would win billions every day.
You wished that will never happen.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#55 - 2013-08-09 13:35:16 UTC
ITT: OP discovers the meaning of gambling despite shaky claims of evidence and poor math skills.

What's next, an expose on insurance companies and how they make profits?

Ground breaking work into the field of banking and research into these interest rate thingies?

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#56 - 2013-08-09 13:36:10 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
You just discovered the business model of literally every Casino. *slow clap*

Well hey, it's more than most casino customers do, so there's that…


but I do have a system!
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#57 - 2013-08-09 13:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: E-2C Hawkeye
Cipio Alduin wrote:
Well it's nice to know that when i choose to share some work with the eve community

I simply get trolled and abused

How apt and immature

I appreciate the work and the effort, BUT did you really expect any other response?
khazid
STA'IN
#58 - 2013-08-09 13:48:08 UTC
An aussie guy that used to be in the same corp as me some time ago 'worked' for Somer Blink. He was a real douche but could pretty much guarantee the winning numbers based on some trend.

It's not a problem because the people that play it would still play it even if they knew the odds were more against them they should be. It doesn't take much effort to relieve ISK from idiots. The ONLY issue I've found with it is CCP's advertising of it.
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-08-09 13:53:55 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Cipio Alduin wrote:
Well it's nice to know that when i choose to share some work with the eve community

I simply get trolled and abused

How apt and immature

I appreciate the work and the effort, BUT did you really expect any other response?

Sadly he did ... unless it was a successful troll.
Sahriah BloodStone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-08-09 14:18:56 UTC
When i first started trying blink i did some research to!!

I took the number of slots you can bet on and times it by the amount it cost per blink. and then i checked the market price on the item. Lo and behold blink makes like a 10% profit on every single one!!!1!

That took me about 5min. And i pretty much summed up your entire post.

Blink makes extra money..when a crapton of people play they make a LOT of extra money.

Could you let us know where this website is? Id love to get paid for doing 'research' to.


Whats funny is i regularly have people spending $500-1000 a day in the gambling room at the restaurant i work in. Could you do a paper on where these people get that kind of money to just blow?

Sahriah Bloodstone

No.Mercy // Triumvirate

"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "