EVE General Discussion

Good point.

CCP, I demand you delay Odyssey 1.1 until December and give it a proper expansion name

Eh.

Doesn't much matter to me, so long as they don't bungle the realease or content contained therein. I suppose, so long as it's along the same 'theme' as Odyssey, they ought keep the same general label.

whats included in this update? i don't know where to find the notes.

Check the features and ideas forum

"why are clouds still in the game"

One thing that sticks out that absolutely no development besides ship balancing seems to take place.

CCP is Fozzie and Rise these days.

I do not think that CCP Fozzie and Rise are the only ones that work hard there. They just have a job which needs immediate interaction with the players.

I am sure that other CCP members work on other projects, like strategic decisions and programming for the next expansion, that are kept secret at the moment.

Well they used to write dev blogs about upcoming changes.

Maybe it's just summer holidays, tho.

I share Roime's sentiment. I have no insight at CCP but from my outside perspective, being in game dev myself, it appears that very little content is created by art and design teams. Half year between Retribution and Odyssey and all that has been done was a new jump effect, a new shader on the jump gates, some reworked ship hulls and two new props for data and relic sites. Then i see these presentations at Fanfest the art team celebrating itself showing that destroyed ship prop for the relic sites and shake my head. Realisticaly that's one or max two weeks work for a single artist.
So extrapolate the amount of content from this that one could expect after half a year from even a small art team of a handful of people.
Not saying the art/design team is lazy or incompetent but it's clear CCP's focus isn't Eve and they are grabbing at straws to show something and give Eve players at least the illusion that people work on that game.

Not sure why you feel the need to get defensive on CCP's behalf.
Tell me about all the art that you see created between the expansions. I don't see it. Have you seen the X trailer? How long has Egosoft worked on that, 2-3 years? Eve is ten years old. It's not rocket sience that the game could look a lot more vibrant, alive and immersive if a dedicated art/design team would work on it all year. Again i don't see it. Making a new skin for a Navy faction ship is a days work for an artist. But CCP sells it like a whole team had to work on it for months and people like you buy it. I don't blame you. Perhaps you've never opened Maya or Photoshop.

And i don't say that they don't work hard enough. Only that it's obvious to anyone who knows a thing or two about game art that CCP's artists and designers must work on something else then Eve. There is no other explanation.
Just check the F&I section of the forums. All stickies for Odyssey 1.1 involve things that are merely tweaking some values in script files. No sticky about new content being created.