Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not only WIS but any relevant EVE development is dropped.

The game is currently in life support / mantainence. This is not going to change till they will not be able to find an escape from the Dust trap.

"you" already have spaceship game, space and ships.

next

maybe not hiring dust mercs for raids on facilities in faction high sec space but POS in null and low sec... now that would be something! dust mercs fighting corridor to corridor in a POS fighting whatever npc defences and troops the player hired to defend it in a kind of siege horde mode setting? that would be epic!

If we had WiS we could have pub brawls instead of board wars. You know all those people here you want to punch in the face? It could happen.....

if scale is the problem, then do it in small scale, let me invite other people into my hangar,
give us a poker table somewhere, we could have plenty of fun with that,
and it would not require massive hardware to run.

for example, to be honest, jita 4-4 would probably be laggy as **** for everyone

i was amongst those who were furious over WiS, it was not because i did not want WiS,
but it was because it had been advertised as a HUGE new thing,
and when it arrived, something like 10% of the things promised had been implemented.

balance fixes dont require the same developers as making new content does, you should see new innovative content, AND fixes for existing content, at the same time, not one or the other

as an analogy, think of cars, some people design cars, OTHER people maintain cars.
noone stops designing new cars because engines need oil changed :)

This is actually true.

Source:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/808727 and
http://www.clinicaladvisor.com/video-game-addiction-common-in-autistic-boys/article/305070/#

for example.

And yes, they don't like change but why should the game suffer because of that?

I think WIS should have been released looooong ago and I don't understand why it's taking so long.

CCP is supposed to be a pretty large company and to fail to deliver WIS is just incredible. It's almost a Duke Nukem Forever case.

WIS isn't even a complicated thing to do, CCP just likes to set sail for fail a little bit too often.

How can scale be a problem on a game that supports 4000 player space battles? Sure, it'd lag with that many players, but there are so many ways of reducing lag. And you're right, it isn't always the same developers who fix things and make new content(for example, 3D modelers don't fix glitches, neither do texture designers)

Two questions.

1. Why should it appeal to "the masses"?

2. Why should we want it to appeal to "the masses"?

Eve should "attract" the masses. But we all know its a niche game that will be suitably for only some people. But just because of it doesn't mean we need to be elitist. As the player base grows so does the experience for all of us.

You keep saying "autistic" like it's an insult, as opposed to a diagnosis. Which is nonsense. It's like trying to insult a community by saying "most WoW players have generally had a Basal Cell Carcinoma".

Even if that were true, how is it insulting? And where exactly are you getting this information anyway? I'm pretty sure you don't have access to all our medical records.

After four Fanfests and I-forget-how-many player meetups, and pushing eight years of just hanging out on TS or whatever, the conclusion I draw is that EVE players are a varied, generally friendly, generally well-adjusted group of individuals from a variety of walks of life. I'm sure that our community includes persons who are on the autistic spectrum. I have no idea whether that percentage is greater or lesser than that found in, say, Battlefield, CoD, LoL, DotA, WoT or.... I don't know, Barbie Horse Adventures. But I certainly don't think it's "most" or "a majority".

Pulling statistics out of your arse, leaping to logically inept conclusions and then acting all smug when somebody says "smells like bull chit to me" doesn't make you King of the Internet, dude.