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Faction Wars is Killing Elite PVP
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Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-08-09 09:33:24 UTC
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?
Irya Boone
The Scope
#2 - 2013-08-09 09:38:50 UTC
For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site.


Hummm , i knew it !! the definition Of elite PvP , DAMNNN !!!!

Ps : i hope with this set up you have an OGB too ? !!

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2013-08-09 09:39:00 UTC
Go pick fights against other cruisers.

There are over 20 frigates to chose from if you want go play with that kestrel.
AtheistOfFail
Totality Squad
#4 - 2013-08-09 09:40:22 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death.

Faction wars puts most of the fighting into complexes that only permit ships of certain types, reducing the available setups that can viably be used. This is EVE on easy mode as it allows the defender to disregard huge chunks of possible ships. Many of these people also fly nothing but triple warp stabbed frigates.

For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site. We can't do it because of arbitrary restrictions on ship sizes.

By protecting the kestrel, you are discouraging elite pvp.

I wanted to kill a thorax in a medium but our battleship fleet (really good fleet full of vindicators and bhaalgorns) was not permitted!

How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?


Not sure if you're trolling here...

So elite PvP is bringing 4 T3 cruisers, 4 Logistics ships and 2 Faction Cruisers (****** non-dps ones) to crush a single T1 frigate?

Nice. Go sit in the large plex and wait, someone will come and meet your Elite PvP along (with their own cyno)
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-08-09 09:41:13 UTC
Irya Boone wrote:
For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site.


Hummm , i knew it !! the definition Of elite PvP , DAMNNN !!!!

Ps : i hope with this set up you have an OGB too ? !!


The kestrel probably has links too, if you don't have links you can't compete.
Irya Boone
The Scope
#6 - 2013-08-09 09:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Irya Boone
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Irya Boone wrote:
For example, lets say we have a fleet consisting of 4 lokis, 4 guardians, and 2 ashimmus and we want to go kill a kestrel running a small site.


Hummm , i knew it !! the definition Of elite PvP , DAMNNN !!!!

Ps : i hope with this set up you have an OGB too ? !!


The kestrel probably has links too, if you don't have links you can't compete.



OK , you get me ...

Me Irya Boone , i support OP's idea , in order to bring elite pvp to its glory

We need more T3 cruiser+ Logi + cruiser tackler+ off grid booster + Fighters+ fighter bomber assigned To kill Solo Frigate .

So ccp remove novice, small, medium , complexes out the game Please



Shame :( i got caught feeding a troll :(

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#7 - 2013-08-09 09:46:47 UTC
Well my frigate isn't linked. So I don't particularly want to fight you in my plex.

There is a lot of lowsec that isn't faction warfare you know.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Herr Esiq
Viziam
#8 - 2013-08-09 09:48:49 UTC

Troll line..
Rhea Rankin Nolen
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-08-09 10:01:39 UTC
Poasting in a stealth "FW is awesome" thread.
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#10 - 2013-08-09 10:10:05 UTC
I sure do hope you are just trolling.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-08-09 10:15:59 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Go pick fights against other cruisers.

There are over 20 frigates to chose from if you want go play with that kestrel.


Elite pvp'ers don't fly frigates!

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-08-09 10:18:10 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
...How are us elite pvpers supposed to have fun in lo sec?

thanks! Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-08-09 10:24:13 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death....


But isn't the idea, behind a war, to kill?

Watch this space.  New exciting signature in development.
Malice Marra
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-08-09 10:28:24 UTC
This is probably the dumbest topic I have ever read regarding the PVP.


By elite PVP you mean blobing with oversupported T3s in lowsec? Be serious...


http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4083/5055032357_69d1d1be72_z.jpg
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#15 - 2013-08-09 10:30:25 UTC
It's nice to know FW isn't all about PvE in warp-stabbed frigs.
Rabid Disconnection
Prism's Keepers
#16 - 2013-08-09 10:30:43 UTC
5/10
Prince Kobol
#17 - 2013-08-09 10:32:51 UTC
It would help if you described what you consider "Elite PvP" to be.

My version of Elite PvP is the only people who call PvP elite are those with no life, have not left their mom's basement in 6 months and have an unusual body odour :)
flakeys
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-08-09 10:35:02 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
I wanted to say bad troll but then noticed yet again baltec fell for it.God baltec , really ?


So that said i have to give a 10/10 for the troll because i gave a 9/10 to the other guy who had the same result and this troll actually made me smile with the 'nice bs fleet' comment.



Mind you i'm not gonna give more then a 5/10 for the next troll who let's baltec fall for it , it's just too easy appearantly.


Edit : on second thought i am gonna give it a 10/10 PLUS because holy crap one after the other is falling for the obvious ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Baudolino
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-08-09 10:54:06 UTC
FIRST! (With my name)
Baudolino
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-08-09 10:55:46 UTC
Inokuma Yawara wrote:
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
Simply put, faction wars is strangling elite pvp to death....


But isn't the idea, behind a war, to kill?



War does not equal homocide. Homocide is a bi-product of it.
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