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we need mini nukes...

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2013-08-08 14:13:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
CCP needs to support individuals who want to go big

I'm thinking of a nukebomb at the price of 1 billion

100.000 HP damager on a 100k radius

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2013-08-08 14:16:46 UTC

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flakeys
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-08-08 14:19:51 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to support individuals who want to go big

I'm thinking of a nukebomb at the price of 1 billion

100.000 HP damager on a 40k radius



I want an individual nuker too .


Costs 100 B but you can nuke one individual into biomass with it and i got just the guy in mind i want to try it on ... can you guess who harry ?





Come on , just one try ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-08-08 14:20:40 UTC
40Km radius.

"mini" nuke.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-08-08 14:21:58 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to support individuals who want to go big
No, they don't. In fact, it turned out to be such a bad idea that they removed it because of how much fun-removing power it gave to one person.
flakeys
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-08-08 14:23:06 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
40Km radius.

"mini" nuke.



The big one he had in mind will nuke a whole constellation , so yeah mini nuke .



We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#7 - 2013-08-08 14:24:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Alice Saki
Stealth DD Driveby Nerf/Buff thread....

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#8 - 2013-08-08 14:45:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to support individuals who want to go big

I'm thinking of a nukebomb at the price of 1 billion

100.000 HP damager on a 40k radius

We have mini-nukes. In a number of differnt forms. What you're asking for is a Maxi-nuke! Shocked

Relevant.
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#9 - 2013-08-08 14:52:51 UTC  |  Edited by: William Walker
The Tsar bomba had a yield of 50 to 58 megatons of TNT. It was originally constructed to have 100 megatons of TNT. That would have had an estimated destruction radius of 35km.

We already have bombs and they inflict enough damage to small targets and have a radius of 15km. The scale of EVE ships is large already, and creating "mega-bombs" or bombs already bigger than the ones we have now would be an imbalance.

CCP is not here to empower your crusade against nullsec, King Harry Forever of Highsec, first of his name, lord protector of the 4 realms, leader of the anti-nullsec crusade.

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#10 - 2013-08-08 14:57:20 UTC
A mini nuke (in todays tech) is the EVE equivalent of a bomb that has a 6km AOE.

What you're asking for is a OP weapon that'll break more mechanics then George Bush rigging his 2nd term...

...
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2013-08-08 14:58:55 UTC
William Walker wrote:
The Tsar bomba had a yield of 50 to 58 megatons of TNT. It was originally constructed to have 100 megatons of TNT. That would have had an estimated destruction radius of 35km.

We already have bombs and they inflict enough damage to small targets and have a radius of 15km. The scale of EVE ships is large already, and creating "mega-bombs" or bombs already bigger than the ones we have now would be an imbalance.

CCP is not here to empower your crusade against nullsec, King Harry Forever of Highsec, first of his name, lord protector of the 4 realms, leader of the anti-nullsec crusade.


sure we need it, and the game needs it as well... at the moment the focus is too much on alliances and groups... there are many soloplayers who are able to build up big amount of ISK on their own, but the superweapon to use it is missing

if I'm able to build an amount of ISK comparable to a corp, then I want to have a weapon to fight that corp

the only balance needs to be the price for the weapon, that can be discussed

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#12 - 2013-08-08 14:59:25 UTC
A heavy missile has a yield of 41 kT.

So what's asked for here is a "bigger bomb".

But I think there are a lot of people who can harken back to the days of the old Doomsday Device, and the "Drive-by DD".

So anything that comes even close to it, a "BIG AOE weapon", is going to make people nervous.


Presently the stealth bomber, apparently over frigate size or in that range, has a bomb with a 14K range, and the damage runs in the single digit thousands with a lot of mod around skills, target size, and all that.


While a super bomb has some cool to it in concept, I do hope to see a "heavy bomber" ship in the future. It's loads of fun delivering love with a stealth bomber but surely something bigger would be more fun.

The trend already exists. There's covops, then black ops, and recon, to the warping cloakies didn't stop at frigate-sized ships, still only one category is capable of "setting them up the bomb".

If the trend for bombers moved along the same lines, maybe we would see a BS-Sized heavy bomber ship someday. Would it have large bombs or multiple launchers?

What role would it have? Such a ship would certainly be good for clearing out bubble camps and mining ops that were too bunched up. I can also see such a ship setting up "fleet firewalls" with staggered fire to keep out drones and smaller ships.

Ah well, whether or not we see that, is not in my power.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2013-08-08 15:05:53 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
A heavy missile has a yield of 41 kT.

So what's asked for here is a "bigger bomb".

But I think there are a lot of people who can harken back to the days of the old Doomsday Device, and the "Drive-by DD".

So anything that comes even close to it, a "BIG AOE weapon", is going to make people nervous.


Presently the stealth bomber, apparently over frigate size or in that range, has a bomb with a 14K range, and the damage runs in the single digit thousands with a lot of mod around skills, target size, and all that.


While a super bomb has some cool to it in concept, I do hope to see a "heavy bomber" ship in the future. It's loads of fun delivering love with a stealth bomber but surely something bigger would be more fun.

The trend already exists. There's covops, then black ops, and recon, to the warping cloakies didn't stop at frigate-sized ships, still only one category is capable of "setting them up the bomb".

If the trend for bombers moved along the same lines, maybe we would see a BS-Sized heavy bomber ship someday. Would it have large bombs or multiple launchers?

What role would it have? Such a ship would certainly be good for clearing out bubble camps and mining ops that were too bunched up. I can also see such a ship setting up "fleet firewalls" with staggered fire to keep out drones and smaller ships.

Ah well, whether or not we see that, is not in my power.


Such a ship would be even better for gate camping.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#14 - 2013-08-08 15:06:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Harry Forever wrote:
William Walker wrote:
The Tsar bomba had a yield of 50 to 58 megatons of TNT. It was originally constructed to have 100 megatons of TNT. That would have had an estimated destruction radius of 35km.

We already have bombs and they inflict enough damage to small targets and have a radius of 15km. The scale of EVE ships is large already, and creating "mega-bombs" or bombs already bigger than the ones we have now would be an imbalance.

CCP is not here to empower your crusade against nullsec, King Harry Forever of Highsec, first of his name, lord protector of the 4 realms, leader of the anti-nullsec crusade.


sure we need it, and the game needs it as well... at the moment the focus is too much on alliances and groups... there are many soloplayers who are able to build up big amount of ISK on their own, but the superweapon to use it is missing

if I'm able to build an amount of ISK comparable to a corp, then I want to have a weapon to fight that corp

the only balance needs to be the price for the weapon, that can be discussed
What you want is a bomb that will not only nuke your opponents' fleet, but will nuke your own fleet as well.

Somehow, I don't think anyone launching those will be very welcome... anywhere. The only real purpose for it would be comedy. It certainly would not serve the purpose you fantisize it might.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-08-08 15:08:09 UTC
once upon a time, we had the VoE (Volume of Effect) titan Doomsday, which did something like that much damage to everything on the grid. so, the bomb that's being discussed here but with a 500Km radius.

They got rid of it, and for good reason.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#16 - 2013-08-08 15:14:51 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:


If the trend for bombers moved along the same lines, maybe we would see a BS-Sized heavy bomber ship someday. Would it have large bombs or multiple launchers?


Multiple launchers, please. The ability to ripple-fire bombs would make me smile. Like a shark. Especially if you can load one of each type of bomb... Twisted

Of course, that would make Heavy Bombers seriously OP unless you put some crippling gimps on it, too.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#17 - 2013-08-08 15:18:10 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
William Walker wrote:
The Tsar bomba had a yield of 50 to 58 megatons of TNT. It was originally constructed to have 100 megatons of TNT. That would have had an estimated destruction radius of 35km.

We already have bombs and they inflict enough damage to small targets and have a radius of 15km. The scale of EVE ships is large already, and creating "mega-bombs" or bombs already bigger than the ones we have now would be an imbalance.

CCP is not here to empower your crusade against nullsec, King Harry Forever of Highsec, first of his name, lord protector of the 4 realms, leader of the anti-nullsec crusade.


sure we need it, and the game needs it as well... at the moment the focus is too much on alliances and groups... there are many soloplayers who are able to build up big amount of ISK on their own, but the superweapon to use it is missing

if I'm able to build an amount of ISK comparable to a corp, then I want to have a weapon to fight that corp

the only balance needs to be the price for the weapon, that can be discussed

And what makes you think that the super powers of EVE won't have 1000+ pilots weilding these weapons.

If you don't think that's possible remember that the CFC had 6 Megathron fleets, 2 Bomber fleets, 1 Fuckyou fleet, 1 loki fleet and a Dreadnaught fleet. Just for that one battle of 6VDT...

...
flakeys
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-08-08 15:21:27 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

if I'm able to build an amount of ISK comparable to a corp, then I want to have a weapon to fight that corp



Uhm harry unlike most of your blocklist and the few not on it i have got to know you because of your thread in market discussion.

You know the one where you where gonna do awsome stuff with procurers.The thread where a crapload of multi-B and multi-T traders told you the flaws of the plan and where you started telling them all how wrong they where and blocking them one by one.

Think i was the first one on that list ... but i know you read it still.You are too self absorbed to not read what others say about your persona.


So , with that in mind i can be quite sure that your big amount of isk will be as much of a succes as your take over of the VFK system .

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-08-08 15:25:52 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
CCP needs to support individuals who want to go big

I'm thinking of a nukebomb at the price of 1 billion

100.000 HP damager on a 40k radius



I want an individual nuker too .


Costs 100 B but you can nuke one individual into biomass with it and i got just the guy in mind i want to try it on ... can you guess who harry ?





Come on , just one try ...


I was suggesting the "Azerothonian Death Beam" a while back in F&I, a weapon that would delete your eve account and start a new WoW account for you immediately after.
But you guys didn't like the idea :(

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2013-08-08 15:30:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
William Walker wrote:
The Tsar bomba had a yield of 50 to 58 megatons of TNT. It was originally constructed to have 100 megatons of TNT. That would have had an estimated destruction radius of 35km.

We already have bombs and they inflict enough damage to small targets and have a radius of 15km. The scale of EVE ships is large already, and creating "mega-bombs" or bombs already bigger than the ones we have now would be an imbalance.

CCP is not here to empower your crusade against nullsec, King Harry Forever of Highsec, first of his name, lord protector of the 4 realms, leader of the anti-nullsec crusade.


by the way, the game is already out of balance, what makes it out of balances are those big alliances especially the CFC, you can not fight them anymore with groups and conventional mesures

they suck up all of the playerbase and assimilate them into those mindless creatures, compareable to the Borg in Star Trek they are against individualism and therefore need to be fought by individuals

thats why we need terror weapons with devastating impact

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
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