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Kedra Merune Okel
Ascended Bros
#1 - 2013-08-07 12:02:34 UTC
Afternoon Capsuleers!

I need help fitting a ship that can gives bonuses to missiles, has fairly good defense and can hold a decent amount of missile launchers, I can now use heavy missiles, but not sure what ship to use and what launchers to actually fit, and also all the other modules, i searched online but most of them are for level 5 skills which i don't have, the highest skill i got is level 4 on numerous skills, I was looking at the Cyclone (I think its battle cruiser? or something like that)?

Any help would be appreciated!

Fly Safe Pilots! o7
Whitehound
#2 - 2013-08-07 12:55:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Please be more specific. What do you want to use the ship for, PvE or PvP? Do you have low skills and/or little amounts of ISKs? What are you flying now?

Also take a look at the Drake thread here. It is a missile ship.

Here are two fittings for a Cyclone for mission running. The first is a slow one with a long range to stay away from most of the damage:

[Cyclone, PvE AB + HML]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

10MN Afterburner II
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field (mission-specific)
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II (mission-specific)
Medium Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Missile
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Phased Plasma M

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hobgoblin II x2
Hobgoblin II x2
Hammerhead II x3

One should not mix weapons, but the Cyclone does not leave one much options.

You use 4 light drones against small targets, or 2 light and 3 medium drones against larger targets for more damage.

The second fitting is a fast ship, but with a short range. Instead of using two artilleries can one use vampires to feed the ship with energy and to keep the shield booster running for close range combat:

[Cyclone, PvE MWD + HAM]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Limited 'Anointed' EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Inferno Heavy Assault Missile
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Medium Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I

Hobgoblin II x2
Hobgoblin II x2
Hammerhead II x3

Pick out of the fittings whatever you like and match it to your own style and preferences.

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How2FoldSoup
Hull Tanking Elitists
#3 - 2013-08-08 05:50:28 UTC  |  Edited by: How2FoldSoup
What do you want to use it for?

for hauling I would suggest HMLs like you have trained and then fill the lows with cargo expanders. You can fit a shield tank of your flavour in the mids.

Something like this would probably do well:

[Cyclone, Firefly]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Small Graviton Smartbomb II
Small Graviton Smartbomb II

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I


Valkyrie SW-600 x5


You can use the web drones to run away from any pirates that attack you
Kedra Merune Okel
Ascended Bros
#4 - 2013-08-08 10:15:10 UTC
Thanks to both, the Drake fitting does look quite nice and I will look more into it, the 2 fittings you have describe are what I needed as i intend to do both PvE and PvP, I will keep training my skills so I can use the modules properly, and to the lady under the first post, thanks for your ideas I will also look into that fitting, thanks for your help guys!
Whitehound
#5 - 2013-08-08 10:41:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
How2FoldSoup wrote:
What do you want to use it for?

for hauling I would suggest HMLs like you have trained and then fill the lows with cargo expanders. You can fit a shield tank of your flavour in the mids.

Something like this would probably do well:

[Cyclone, Firefly]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 400

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
Small Graviton Smartbomb II
Small Graviton Smartbomb II

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I


Valkyrie SW-600 x5


You can use the web drones to run away from any pirates that attack you

The web drones will only cause a speed reduction of ~15%. Without any propulsion module will this be pretty pointless, because most piwats will have one fitted. Try ECM drones.

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Kessel Rock
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-08-08 12:26:02 UTC
If i could go back and retrain all my skills i would get rid of missile skills. Missiles have been nerfed to the point that they are completely useless.
Oshi Ryn
Pulse Heavy Industries
#7 - 2013-08-08 20:37:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Oshi Ryn
Kessel Rock wrote:
If i could go back and retrain all my skills i would get rid of missile skills. Missiles have been nerfed to the point that they are completely useless.


Overreact much?

Missles are still the best pve weapon platform for dmg projection and cruises just got a huge buff.

A rocket Hawk is a deadly deadly AF.
Cpt Tirel
Institute For Continuous Glory
#8 - 2013-08-08 22:20:09 UTC
Kessel Rock wrote:
If i could go back and retrain all my skills i would get rid of missile skills. Missiles have been nerfed to the point that they are completely useless.


Heavy Assault missiles are still awesome on Tengu's for PVE/PVP and Drake for PVP.
Rockets and Light missiles are great for frigs and the new destroyers.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2013-08-08 22:43:15 UTC
Kessel Rock wrote:
If i could go back and retrain all my skills i would get rid of missile skills. Missiles have been nerfed to the point that they are completely useless.


Well no

You're simply bad at this game.

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