Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Definitely PI need allot of changes! an CCP can take allot of things from here =D!

Dreadnoughts could have a Planetary Attack drone bay!! each drone "capsule" are trowed and when it reaches the ground, opens and some drones emerge from it! also carriers and titans could deploy large attack turrets!! and small ships could deploy soldier capsules that allow Dust players to enter combat from different spots... A force recon or some new type of ship could deploy Covert ops dust commandos capsules... this would be awesome!!! Allot of possibilities!!!!!

There's enough tech in EvE to justify the Bespin style floating cities as is, it may just make some sort of "contruction preimium" cost modification necessary. Building on a temperate world (even if CCPs idea of "temperate" is... questionable) would be fairly easy (we do it now after all). Building on a Lava, Plasma, or Gas giant should probably cost more due to the extra protections needed to maintain the populace (though this may have already been sort of figured in using your earlier growth and production modifiers).

Another possible source to look at for some inspiration might be some of the material from Transhuman Space for GURPS, or for another source available (legitmately free) online would be Eclipse Phase which has some of its material available under the creative commons license. Both are insanely well written and detailed if you love the trans/post humanism side of things, which we pod pilots are pretty safely a part of even without the more extreme "what is human?" modifications sometimes explored in the memes. I've never played either but own physical copies of everything ever written for both :P

EDIT: as for Dusties arriving by capsule from a carrier, I have two things to say:
1) I ain't shaving my head to ferry them around, and
2) "Do you apes wanna live forever!?"

The Mercs on ships aspect of things is very definitely a good issue to try and skirt around if you can. If I recall correctly, one of the initial ideas tossed around for Dust was that the mercs would have their own ships (or at least be able to work up to having their own orbital battle barge) that would function as transport, lounge, and C&C entities. That also went quiet pretty fast, if I had to bet because somebody brought up the whole "if you give it stats someone will kill it" issue.

As far as costs involved, in the end most would essentially be arbitrary. "Building on 'x' costs 'y' more than 'z' because you need to use 'n' number of fancy gribbly bits."

Likely the simple way would be to establish a baseline cost (probably for 'temperate' worlds for simplicity), and then modify from there. Likely a good way of lining up the increase in costs would be to look at the potential profitability of the world they're being placed on vs that of the baseline world type and have some kind of increase based on the difference. Sure you can produce *insert insanely profitable item here* on plasma worlds (or whatever), but you also have to install additional shield generators, medical facilities, etc... to keep you workers moderately safe.

Idealy, some worlds likely shouldn't be profitable/growable at all unless you build them up in a very specific manner. It reminds me of the old film "Outland." People only go there because they're paid stupid amounts of money, and most don't stay for too long because of the conditions.

To OP: I love you! :)

and yea... that's positive response...


And please CCP... get some better graphic for PI...
now it looks like sewerage system... only pipes pipes and pipes...

It is a well formulated and thought trough proposal. But as Igvar Angst stated, on good reason out of the perspective of a sole FiS player, its complexity will take an enormous effort of time to interact with the growth and maintenance pattern as described. The complexity and time investment would require, but foremost attract a new type of player, no more the pod pilot but the “colonist”.

In 2005 aprox 12.000PL were active subscriber, venturing in 0.0. Space was rather a “sightseeing tour”, in 2008 (25.000 PL) things have changed dramatically and in 2011 (near to 40.000Pl) there are earning problems argued in 0.0. By 2016, with an anticipated overpopulation of 70.000 PL active, the whole player space would be completely in a gridlock. Not adding much to the fun. Personally I estimate a 60.000 active subscriber are enough to put the lid on the can.
To some extend WIS was designed to shutter valve subscribers out of FiS, players with lesser intent to interact on the High end provisions of the game, the proposed type of extended PI could go very well in this direction and serve as a new space while the game is growing in population.

If so, it would be clearly to be accessed from the Dust platform. (If Dust ever will succeed, I have no daub on it beside all the political argumentation). This would give the proposal more likely the requested acceptance as it will meet the utter resistance of the ruling alliances in and out game if accessible by the Eve launcher. In its present form and in its complexity it pose as a parallel game with own contend diverting strongly form the sole FiS content on which EvE is originated.

I remember Hilmar Petterson made a notion some time ago: “What we see on Eve by today is just scratching the surface of its potential”.
From this point of view the proposal is digging below the surface.

The colonizers have been here since Tyranis.

Some of us even longer, setting up hi-sec POS colonies.

Please tell me you didn't change it much since the old forums, I don't want to read through this all agian.

I supported old version, so gonna support this one.

its already a threadnought that makes titans jealous!

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