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Did CCP originally intend there to be large alliances?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2013-08-06 16:33:00 UTC
Myra Faye wrote:
Spurty wrote:

If I was the designer here, I'd force proximity to founder to be a factor.

Well, let's all be glad you're not.

It's ok anyway, GSF has sov in tons of people's holdings for jump bridges, ironically.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#22 - 2013-08-06 16:40:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Myra Faye wrote:

Absolute bunk. Just because the feature wasn't implemented in V1 doesn't mean it wasn't planned for.

Player-owned structures, sovereignty, large alliances, etc. these were all imagined and planned for long before they were implemented in the game.

"Emergent activity that was unforeseen" lol.

That is my understanding of it, I could be wrong but afaik, and from what I've read, alliances were not a planned feature when Eve was released.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#23 - 2013-08-06 16:42:12 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Myra Faye wrote:

Absolute bunk. Just because the feature wasn't implemented in V1 doesn't mean it wasn't planned for.

Player-owned structures, sovereignty, large alliances, etc. these were all imagined and planned for long before they were implemented in the game.

"Emergent activity that was unforeseen" lol.

That is my understanding of it, I could be wrong but afaik, and from what I've read, alliances were not a planned feature when Eve was released.

Anyway it's fine, you can say that coalitions are emergent ~and~ not implemented in game.

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Lazy Eagle
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-08-06 16:55:33 UTC
I thought this was a "make me tacos" thread. Didn't know it was a "they have thousands QQ" threadBig smile
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#25 - 2013-08-06 16:57:03 UTC
nerf high sec
Myra Faye
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-08-06 17:04:47 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

That is my understanding of it, I could be wrong but afaik, and from what I've read, alliances were not a planned feature when Eve was released.


There's a big difference between saying they did not plan on implementing features to support Alliances and saying that the formation of Alliances was "unforeseen" or "emergent."

Of course CCP knew players would band together in this way; maybe at first they imagined larger corporations so there would be no need for Alliances. Who knows. Either way it's pretty silly to suggest CCP was like "Whoa! We never say THAT coming! You crazy, clever players really threw us a curveball!"
Lister Dax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-08-06 17:04:54 UTC
Stealth, nerf stealth threads, thread! Ugh
Victor Dathar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#28 - 2013-08-06 17:09:35 UTC
Buff everything that has been nerfed and nerf everything that has been buffed apart from things I get benefits from so that I can enjoy this game and make everyone else play it how I want to play it because I am right and you are all wrong.

^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#29 - 2013-08-06 17:50:35 UTC
Obviously this is a "Nerf nerfing" thread.

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#30 - 2013-08-06 18:36:17 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Sure CCP wanted a sandbox. Sure they wanted to see what would happen like everyone else. But did CCP ever imagine large coalitions that could field thousands of ships would come into existence? Was the original vision more like the wild west and less of the zerg-blob-zerg?

As these large space battles get more and more e-fame I wonder if CCP will be influenced to set up more of these situations. Hopefully CCP will keep their focus on balance for all security status', but fame makes people do crazy things.


Don't believe everything you see, behind every 2000 man fleet is a couple dozen ISBoxers running 10-20 (or more) fleet doctrine ships. Lol

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Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-08-06 20:38:58 UTC
posting in a stealth fire t-twenty thread.
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-08-06 20:51:59 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Obviously this is a "Nerf nerfing" thread.


Nerf Vincent Athena. I heard he killed a guy...

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#33 - 2013-08-06 20:52:15 UTC
grrr people aren't playing like I want them to


lets move level 4s out of hisec amirite?

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-08-06 21:11:29 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Plastic Psycho wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Diesel47 wrote:
If CCP only caters to the blobs for a little bit of e-fame, they will soon see their game crashing down after the sheeple who joined cuz of a story they heard get bored and go play star citizen.


We are now officially in a EVE is dieing thread.

I thought this was a 'Nerf Nul' thread..?

It's not a nerf ISboxer or bad pun thread?


I'm firmly planting the "bad pun" flag.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-08-06 21:54:08 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
As these large space battles get more and more e-fame I wonder if CCP will be influenced to set up more of these situations.





It's the selling argument of Eve for CCP and their interest is all in making them happen in best conditions (TiDi) and awesome tools (ships mods).

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#36 - 2013-08-06 22:22:30 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
grrr people aren't playing like I want them to

lets move level 4s out of hisec amirite?

grr should always be followed by goons.

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-08-07 03:06:18 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
nerf high sec


The large highsec npc alliances need to be nerfed.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-08-07 03:50:48 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Leigh Akiga wrote:
nerf high sec


The large highsec npc alliances need to be nerfed.



Just remove industry slots and force industry to be done at POS.

This would not even be a nerf but a buff to industry, a buff to dedicated corporations member numbers, a buff to dedicated industrials, economics buff, high sec pvp buff and these are just a few advantages for doing it.
Factor low/sec and null sec, no need to exaggerate with numbers tweaking to buff player activities because NPC industry slots are far numerous have better timers better wastage better cost better everything in a player made content game so called "sandbox"

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#39 - 2013-08-07 06:18:20 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Leigh Akiga wrote:
nerf high sec

The large highsec npc alliances need to be nerfed.

Aren't they corporations? I mean you can break up whatever alliance, but the corps are just as good with or without the alliances.

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-08-07 06:22:36 UTC
This may in fact be an 'Eve is dying because too many people are playing it together' thread.

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