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-10.0000 imposible? 20m.isk math problem
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Commandante Chongo
Bored Bitter Vet
#1 - 2013-08-06 21:16:18 UTC
Got a math problem for someone smarter than myself:

Character at sec status -9.9997

Current pod sec hit is about -6.5%

how many pods would it take to get from -9.9997 to -10.0000

20m isk for a worked out solution
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2013-08-06 21:17:32 UTC
Over 9000!!?

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Lindsey Stirling
Artemis Research And Development
#3 - 2013-08-06 21:21:26 UTC
Isn't this like approaching the speed of light? Can never actually reach it?

LS
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-08-06 21:24:50 UTC
You have to kill babies to get -10 flat.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-08-06 21:26:06 UTC
∞
Arkenai Wyrnspire
Incorruptibles
#6 - 2013-08-06 21:39:28 UTC
I think there's a minimum sec status hit that lets you get to -10.
I'd guess 2 or 3 more pods. Could be wrong though, I've never gone -10.

Someone.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-08-06 21:42:34 UTC
are you asking what it takes to get to 10 flat or merely to get a specific number of nines (eve stores a lot more than five decimal points for your sec status)
Pitrolo Orti
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-08-06 21:42:35 UTC
La contestacion es infinito

Waiting for the ISK

Price is what you pay. Value is what you get.
MacKael
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-08-06 21:43:06 UTC
1 in high sec
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-08-06 21:44:23 UTC
Tippia wrote:
∞



This

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Obunagawe
#11 - 2013-08-06 21:45:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Obunagawe
27 pods until it rounds to -10.0000 (aka, >9.99995)
Openoffice crashed and I can't copy paste because it is ******. **** my life.

1 should really be 0.

1 9.9997
2 9.9997195
3 9.9997377325
4 9.9997547799
5 9.9997707192
6 9.9997856224
7 9.999799557
8 9.9998125858
9 9.9998247677
10 9.9998361578
11 9.9998468075
12 9.9998567651
13 9.9998660753
14 9.9998747804
15 9.9998829197
16 9.9998905299
17 9.9998976455
18 9.9999042985
19 9.9999105191
20 9.9999163354
21 9.9999217736
22 9.9999268583
23 9.9999316125
24 9.9999360577
25 9.9999402139
26 9.9999441
27 9.9999477335
28 9.9999511309
29 9.9999543073
30 9.9999572774
31 9.9999600543
32 9.9999626508
33 9.9999650785
34 9.9999673484
35 9.9999694708
36 9.9999714552
37 9.9999733106
38 9.9999750454
39 9.9999766674
40 9.9999781841
41 9.9999796021
42 9.999980928
43 9.9999821676
44 9.9999833267
45 9.9999844105
46 9.9999854238
47 9.9999863713

However, you'll never really get to a true -10, as the size of the increment will exceed the limit of a floating point variable before the number of decimal places in the sec status exceeds the limit of a floating point variable.
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
#12 - 2013-08-06 21:59:56 UTC
Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-08-06 22:08:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Private Pineapple
Mathematically, using %'s you can never get to 0.

But for all intents and purposes as well as practicality, the standard is to wait until a certain point that allows you to go "Yep, it's pretty much -10."

The math twist on the "man walks into a bar..." joke explains this to the common layman (the OP), it goes like this:

"Infinitely many mathematicians walk into a bar. The first says, "I'll have a beer." The second says, "I'll have half a beer." The third says, "I'll have a quarter of a beer." The barman pulls out just two beers. The mathematicians are all like, "That's all you're giving us? How drunk do you expect us to get on that?" The bartender says, "Come on guys. Know your limits.""

"Know your limits." is a reference to a mathematical procedure in situations like this.

So, literally, you will never hit true -10 sec status. Practically, it's whatever arbitrary number CCP decided on to avoid the following:

-9.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999....forever

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-08-06 22:09:41 UTC
You don't actually have to kill pods, you only need to aggress them. So if you go somewhere with a good number of pods flying about, you can use an ECM burst.

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Commandante Chongo
Bored Bitter Vet
#15 - 2013-08-06 22:10:33 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
27 pods until it rounds to -10.0000 (aka, >9.99995)
Openoffice crashed and I can't copy paste because it is ******. **** my life.

1 should really be 0.

1 9.9997
2 9.9997195
3 9.9997377325
4 9.9997547799
5 9.9997707192
6 9.9997856224
7 9.999799557
8 9.9998125858
9 9.9998247677
10 9.9998361578
11 9.9998468075
12 9.9998567651
13 9.9998660753
14 9.9998747804
15 9.9998829197
16 9.9998905299
17 9.9998976455
18 9.9999042985
19 9.9999105191
20 9.9999163354
21 9.9999217736
22 9.9999268583
23 9.9999316125
24 9.9999360577
25 9.9999402139
26 9.9999441
27 9.9999477335
28 9.9999511309
29 9.9999543073
30 9.9999572774
31 9.9999600543
32 9.9999626508
33 9.9999650785
34 9.9999673484
35 9.9999694708
36 9.9999714552
37 9.9999733106
38 9.9999750454
39 9.9999766674
40 9.9999781841
41 9.9999796021
42 9.999980928
43 9.9999821676
44 9.9999833267
45 9.9999844105
46 9.9999854238
47 9.9999863713

However, you'll never really get to a true -10, as the size of the increment will exceed the limit of a floating point variable before the number of decimal places in the sec status exceeds the limit of a floating point variable.



This is the best worked out but it cant be right.. i have podded 9 pods and not even a 0.0001 that's a third of your total amount and it should get progressively harder
Commandante Chongo
Bored Bitter Vet
#16 - 2013-08-06 22:11:38 UTC
oh and yeas i dont want true -10.00000000000000000000 i just want the 4 decimals -10.0000
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2013-08-06 22:12:09 UTC
Andski wrote:
You don't actually have to kill pods, you only need to aggress them. So if you go somewhere with a good number of pods flying about, you can use an ECM burst.

wheres the fun in that
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-08-06 22:15:34 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Andski wrote:
You don't actually have to kill pods, you only need to aggress them. So if you go somewhere with a good number of pods flying about, you can use an ECM burst.

wheres the fun in that


or smartbombs

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Luis Graca
#19 - 2013-08-06 22:19:03 UTC
Have you try to smartbomb jita 4-4 undock ?
Obunagawe
#20 - 2013-08-06 22:26:56 UTC
Commandante Chongo wrote:

This is the best worked out but it cant be right.. i have podded 9 pods and not even a 0.0001 that's a third of your total amount and it should get progressively harder


Keep at it. There's no mathematical reason that you should be sticking at 9.9997 that I can see. Keep going, it's for Science!!!

How many pods did it take for 9.9996 to 9.9997?
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