Ships & Modules

Respect.

The AT XI was a brilliant and thrilling success and the best since I came to the game in 2009.

As expected AT members come to the forums to lobby for changes to ships, modules, game mechanics etc.. on Tranquility based off of AT arena conditions.

The conditions in the AT arena are NOT the same as Tranqulity and was extremely pleased to hear the devs openly state the same many times during the broadcast.

They also mentioned the counter strategy to the AT arena Domi setup many times...so WAI.

TQ Domi's will remain untouched as they should be.

Carry On.


FULL DISCLOSURE: Yes I sell Domi's.

Imo the issue lies with 'assign drones', more atleast compared to the domi itself. Sentry Drones are indeed great and blap mostly anything small under unusual circumstances (was quite amazed to have my talwar popped by a domi at 30, while mwd'ing at around a 50°+ angle).

But it would be nice if either that assign drone-command could be looked up in the future or they'd toy around with other stats of those sentries, like signature resolution.

The only thing broken is the assist command.

It's widely abused for carriers assigning drones to assist in anoms as well while carrier stays relatively safed up.

Couple things:

Yeah that's a bit broken probably. Maybe.
Garde's have always had excellent tracking, balanced by ****** range.
Non-Garde's have ****** tracking
Garde's haven't been changed at all, only the domi has changed, nerfing sentry drones is not the correct solution, as it would basically screw them over in all other instances, instances where their performance hasn't changed a bit. Ishtar is getting a 7.5% bonus.

That 65 dps at 20kms is really the scariest data I have seen in a while and I am not being sarcastic...

at what distance?

gardes can hit up to 80km with 3x omnilinks, if you are sitting at 70km flying at 4kms you might as well be flying at 0ms.

but that brings the issue of "why the hell are gardes hitting up to 80km!?"

tracking is not the issue here, range is.

sentries were fine, and are fine still now. a domi pilot would have to drop long range sentries like curators and blap stuff at a distance with reduced alpha and tracking, and then swap to gardes at close range and web or hope for your angular speed to drop. (transversal means crap if its not considered along with distance.) or just be smart and release the lights/meds.

why would anyone ever use anything but gardes now? its not just about the fact that they are great on their own, also consider that to use the next sentries on the line you need FOUR drone link augmentors AND a sebo! thats insane, and lets not even talk about the wardens... you need all the high filled with drone control range and 2 sebos... wtf.

i guess the idea of the buff was to allow the domi to use nothing but their own racial sentries, but that just dumbs down pve and makes situations like the AT just silly... watching two domi teams blap all the support off the field leaving on grid only the domis and maybe links and a logi, and then proceed to shoot at each other hoping one will kill the other faster is just silly..


but then again when will this happen on TQ? i remember seeing Gila gatecamps when the drone mods were introduced, all they did was drop curators, assign to tackle. and blap away. but that lasted weeks at most, people found just how bad the idea was as soon as force recons started to uncloak next to the gilas and wtfpwn the whole fleet. the same thing can be said about domis, except at bs size, capchained and spider tanking, they can be really hard to kill with raw dps.

but to confuse them with slowcats is just plain silly, domis have WAY more weaknesses, smaller drone bay, supid weakness to void bombs or just plain spread cap warfare. one single geddon can break the whole cap chain in a few cycles if already strained from repping. ( i managed to do this with a pilgrim with 2 meds and one small neut. granted, the herd was small and the dudes flying them were ********.)

but i have to agree that the ship is a little overpowered for a 150m hull, it can carry answers to anything. maybe changing the range bonus for 5% tracking/5% damage (making the total per level 15% damage) or simply making it 10% drone damage 10% drone speeed 25% drone durability per level. to shift the meta from sentries back to standard combat drones.

the point is, nerfing sentries would severely nerf Gilas, Ishtars, Nvexs, and just about anything that uses sentries "in the old way", even battleships like the machariel would hurt on pve.



oh, i was typing this, about to hit send and saw this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=267256

they are changing the domi bonus.

Spoilers: it stays nearly the same.

That bonus really was just a little too good though. 7.5%/level to range and tracking is still an extremely powerful bonus.

Sentry boats cant even more to cancel there traversal.

Bombs, smart bombs, the only way to reload being to scoop from space....in a battleship mind you, can't move,....need I go on.

welp - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=267256

I HOPE YOU"RE ALL ******* SATISFIED NOW THAT YOUR WHINES ABOUT DOMI USE IN THE AT RESULTED IN THIS!

nm, I'm sure you are. But hey, it reminds me of the nerf and scripting of damps. Or, oh oh, how fast and for the same reason those Drakes and HMs got nerfed. Damn you alliance tournaments, you always expose years of tranquility dominance for Gallente ships. :shakes fist: