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*** Drones Automaticaly Return to Drone Bay on Disconnect!? *** SISI ***

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#41 - 2011-11-11 09:25:50 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


Could this behavior be extended to any time the user warps off? Hundreds of forgotten drones would thank you!


I'll keep ears to the ground for news on the viability of something like that....I would like that feature and I'm sure many others would too.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#42 - 2011-11-11 09:28:39 UTC
CCP Affinity wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:

The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


Fantastic, thank you :)

Any chance sentry drones will stop clearing their aggro or command list and picking their own targets too?



CCP Masterplan is currently fixing this issue with the drone AI :)


CCP Masterplan is a man of the people! All hail!

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2011-11-11 09:29:11 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:


Would you be happy if I told you that that's also going into the Winter Expansion?


YOU DARE SAY THAT TO THE PARENTS OF THE 1235512340123472138423421421 warriot IIs i lost for various reasons Evil

imagine how many drone families you destroyed ! how many drone friends have been lost, how many drone babys have grown up without parents !
Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#44 - 2011-11-11 09:52:46 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Interesting...

I'm very curious to see if it works as worded, or the drones just magically reappear in your drone bay.

If your ship does not warp until the drones fly back, I see many issues:

1) If the drones must cover large distances, your ship will not warp for a long time.
2) To tackle a logoffski pilot, simply tackle his drones and prevent them from returning.
3) A ship with sentry drones out will never warp if he's not in scoop range.

Does it apply to fighters and fighter bombers? Tackling and killing those is a fun way to punish docking ring hot droppers for thinking they're pro. If all they have to do is logoffski to get them back magically, that would suck, and if it prevents them from e-warping when they do log off, it would suck for them.


While I'm a heavy drone user and would prefer not to see my precious little ******** DPS machines get lost, I'd much rather lose them than my ship and think this change leaves a lot of questions to answer.


The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


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mingetek
Brainless in Space
#45 - 2011-11-11 10:02:02 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Daedalus Arcova wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


Even the Devs double-post. Fix the forums, CCP.

If drones are sufficiently complex AI to attempt to return to a ship before it e-warps, shouldn't they also be sufficiently complex for pilots to reconnect to them if the connection between ship and drone is lost?

Drones have complex AIs, yet you cannot reconnect to them.
Probes are just probes, yet you can reconnect to them.


Would you be happy if I told you that that's also going into the Winter Expansion?



colour me ecstatic :)
..
Raptor217
Nomadic Spacial Bunnies Support Division
#46 - 2011-11-11 10:32:33 UTC
CCP actually listening to the complaints of their customers? Shocked

I'm pretty sure this expansion will improve on eve more than the past 2 years have. Bravo.
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#47 - 2011-11-11 10:47:23 UTC
Baneken wrote:
bornaa wrote:
Written Word wrote:
Boy, the next expansion after winter is going to suck when you go back to working on vampires


DUST is main thing for next year... DUST comes out in summer... so expect all expansion small and PI oriented...


Well PI is going to need some massive improvements to be interesting enough to warrant fighting over it.



This sums up my opinions on dust pretty damn well.
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Insidious.
#48 - 2011-11-11 10:51:59 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
CCP Affinity wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:

The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


Fantastic, thank you :)

Any chance sentry drones will stop clearing their aggro or command list and picking their own targets too?



CCP Masterplan is currently fixing this issue with the drone AI :)


CCP Masterplan is a man of the people! All hail!


CCP Veritas, CCP Diagonis [sic], CCP Masterplan, CCP Guard:

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Elson Tamar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2011-11-11 11:13:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Elson Tamar
As a drone user, thank you. That is awsome and well thought out. Can i have salvage drones now please? :)
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
#50 - 2011-11-11 21:50:55 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Daedalus Arcova wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


Even the Devs double-post. Fix the forums, CCP.

If drones are sufficiently complex AI to attempt to return to a ship before it e-warps, shouldn't they also be sufficiently complex for pilots to reconnect to them if the connection between ship and drone is lost?

Drones have complex AIs, yet you cannot reconnect to them.
Probes are just probes, yet you can reconnect to them.


Would you be happy if I told you that that's also going into the Winter Expansion?


I would buy you a case of your favorite beverage.

Surrender is still your slightly less painful option.
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
#51 - 2011-11-11 21:55:17 UTC
Raptor217 wrote:
CCP actually listening to the complaints of their customers? Shocked

I'm pretty sure this expansion will improve on eve more than the past 2 years have. Bravo.


While I'm sure CCP is doing everything they can to make this expansion a vast improvement, I can't help but wonder if they're secretly planning a massive troll once the expansion is released. Pirate

Surrender is still your slightly less painful option.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2011-11-11 22:45:23 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:

The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.

The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Smile


Excellent change! I was hoping something like this would be implemented.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#53 - 2011-11-11 22:51:02 UTC
ok, while this is great for unintended DCs why should a successful logoffski get drones back?

this should at least include a check for a user initiated DC or a dropped client at the bare minimum.

sure it could be gamed, brother logoffski could just disconnect the network cable or unplug the router, but at least someone who ctl-Qs shouldn't get a free pass
Adeena Torcfist
R3b3llium
Get Off My Lawn
#54 - 2011-11-12 03:01:38 UTC
ive done some testing on this on tranq, so long as ur drones begin the return to your drone bay, & dont make it back before you warp off, when u relog, drones in distant space will still be controllable when you land, to local space.

That also work if they start returning & u warp off, but so long as you dont jump or dock up, you can return to drones to control them.

I think there is a range limit, 100km or 250km, i cant quite remember. Not Returning your drones, & you log off/d/c/warp off, then you will have to slowboat to them & scoop them up.

So this change is much needed. Too bad a tractor beam couldnt be used on idle drones. that would of helped too.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#55 - 2011-11-14 08:27:14 UTC
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:
Ciar Meara wrote:
Logic?
Usability?
Convenience?
Implementation?
Dynamite?

What has CCP become!


Fixed to finish the obvious direction this had to be going in.


We'll change the dynamite into Dedication if they hang on for two expansion like this. By then the LUCID development plan name will be warranted.

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Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2011-11-14 08:57:22 UTC
This is not good :(

how am i supposed to make my money in game when there is less abandoned drones in the game ?

this is a huge nerf to me !! ill have to actually play the game for crying out loud !!

with this new change i demand that we are now allowed to scan down wrecks.

the lazy among us must be able to have a way to make isk !!

/RAGE!!/ Sad
Maggeridon Thoraz
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2011-11-14 11:21:27 UTC
Sri Nova wrote:
This is not good :(

how am i supposed to make my money in game when there is less abandoned drones in the game ?

this is a huge nerf to me !! ill have to actually play the game for crying out loud !!

with this new change i demand that we are now allowed to scan down wrecks.

the lazy among us must be able to have a way to make isk !!

/RAGE!!/ Sad



lol , better make missions reward is higher than scanning down drones...
bornaa
GRiD.
#58 - 2011-11-14 22:36:11 UTC
"Reconnect to lost drones"
anybody??? Big smile
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Aphoxema G
Khushakor Clan
#59 - 2011-11-14 22:38:20 UTC
Now if only my "Drones in space" would stop collapsing after my drones dock...
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#60 - 2012-01-30 08:26:50 UTC
Sorry for the necro but did this feature ever happen? I can never get my drones to return at warp time...

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.