EVE General Discussion

With the new probing, it would take like 10 seconds for a prober to get a lock on the enemy command ship.

Whether or not you wish to "have anything to do with it" or not is irrelevant. It is the EVE design philosophy and the goal of the team to encourage this kind of play.

It's not about giving boosts to existing players, but rather encouraging new players to adopt a certain style of play and, more importantly, to try and recruit new players to the game.

EVE thrives on alliances, corporations and fleet combat. If more numbers = greater strength, then guess what a new player is going to do in his first few weeks in the game (as he realizes this)? He's going to email/message every single one of his friends and say "Dude, you need to come join this game and fly with me."

CCP does not want to encourage small groups, 1v1 and solo play. This does not drive word-of-mouth advertising in the same way. It reduces the need of players to recruit friends, and doesn't result in the kind of epic, legendary in-game events that CCP uses to advertise EVE. They want massive fleet combat to draw in new players. Something for the history books, not "Oh a few guys over there shot at each other. Neat."

They will certainly not make small gang play impossible, and it will always remain a viable style, but you're not going to win wars, gain sovereignty, or pose a "reaT" threat to a larger force with a small group.

So, like it or not, "get more friends" is the answer. Plain and simple.

Yes, because "SOLO PVP" is all about 1or+ afk invulnerable boosting alts providing huge advantages, of course, that's "solo pvp" sorry me..

I'm also "solo" pvp when I'm 250 and plus fleets, don't worry they will not harm you, it's all about 1v1, trust me I almost know what I'm saying.

I'm not talking about what they should do, I'm talking about what they are doing. CCP prefers larger groups of players, large fleet combat, and accretion of players. They want large groups.

I'm also confident they know better than you how to balance the game.



Okay? Why should I or anyone care what you are going to have or not? Have whatever the **** you want, mate. Just don't expect CCP to be the one serving it to you.

Based upon my younger coworkers and their gaming habits (along with a dose of how they will interact more with their smart phones than with people in person), coming across this situation you describe, they'll be much more inclined to message every single one of their friends and say, "Dude, avoid this game at all costs - you can't solo squat unless you multibox - you know, pay multiple accounts!"

When I read threads like this and how people utilize multiple accounts for boosters and whatnot, I wonder if the increase in subscriptions really are new players or just old players with many accounts...

This problem will be solved the day boosts are given because of fleet positions and not because of the ship/links fitted, which ONLY means:

*if you train those specialization skills and are in the commander/wing/squad position you give bonus on grid

*if you have those skills and are not in one of previous positions or on grid you don't get any benefit for having them

*command ships and command subs have to be changed for something worth bringing on grid and get rid of OGB


Advantages:
*you only have to be in fleet, dedicated position and on grid with booster to benefit from your skills bonus (good for solo, small gang,fleets)

*no more silly command ships and effects with a huge "Shoot me first"

*frigates squads can have their own squad commander providing boosts while zip zapping all around the system away from the main fleet/gang

Just like leadership skills you don't have to train them but having them is great, however as it stands now it's only buffs a la "WOW" and even wow buffs makes it so players have to be in the same "instance" or they have any but their own.

Boosts have way too much benefits to not be on grid, logistics are on grid to give you reps, recons to point/damp/ecm stuff, dps ships are on grid and so must be boosting positions or we'll continue to have "twinks on line" that ARE absolutely negative for the player growing health.
Every single game where twinks are possible makes those games horrible but for a couple nerds able to play that crap for ages always moaning about lack of targets/kills and always wanting more solo "I win buttons", multiboxing is also one of those having higher negative effects in whatever game they're possible than the other way around.

SO if you really want this game to become better you can't be ok with OGB, you can be ok with boosting and some form of reward for actually play an MMO with other players but the current form is absolutely noting more than a script twink in other games.

to OP: I hate boosts when I don't have them, I love them when I do :p

In all seriousness though OGB is a lame mechanic where the optimal game play is to sit still in a POS (and will be changing to orbit around a POS shield).

As far as ongrid boosting, the boosts are on grid and vulnerable and have to be piloted actively. I do think command ships with the new change will still have a roll even if they reduced the level of boosting even further. I'm personally comfortable with CCP taking a step at a time though. What I would really like to see is a total elimination of off grid boosting, and a reduction of boosts applied on grid to each pilot based on the number of people being boosted (blobbing will still be worth it, but the boosts that are applied to them won't be as insane giving the smaller gang stronger boosts, but probably not enough to logi through the dps, but perhaps enough to score a few kills, or hold kite range, etc.).

Giant hole in your logic: the bigger blob is more likely to have a OGB than a smaller blob... so in general, removing OGBs would benefit smaller blobs more than bigger blobs. On the other hand, OGBs provide even more bonuses to bigger blobs than smaller blobs because simply more ships get the bonuses... so removing OGBs hurts big blobs more than smaller blobs, which is good!

No it isn't.

After the change:

Every blob that had an OGB will now have a command ship.

Every small gang that could of had an OGB, can't anymore.

And you talk about logic.

Love blobbing. The way of the future in space is to blob.