Ships & Modules

So after a few years of Mach missioning I bought a Vargur for a try. Wow.....really slow and gankless. If the only draw is the salvage ability I think I will pass.....

Cons: The kills are slightly slower and the boat is slower, to be sure.
Pros: No need to bring back a salvager, more durable with the huge shield boost. Can use special ammo profitably to increase kill speed. Vertical. Is probably not going to get hit with the nerf bat like the Mach.

YMMV, but I loved switching over. My Machariel danced on the razor's edge and brought swift death... the Vargur plows the enemy under, salts the earth and carts off their riches.

PVE. I can not imagine this tub in PVP....I have heard that the marauders are going to get some love so maybe later.
Now what new nerfs are planned for the Mach? I have been away for 6 months or so.

I was hoping the TE nerf was enough.

Bmw mach used for fast killing pve or pvp

John Deere vargur used for slow farming pve and real pvp like eft warrioring tournament's and station games...it usually happens when u ignore that single ecm drone will own you while forgetting that you could have 10X maels/hypes having that much more fun.

Its not tracking what 8s an issue using AC in pve it is range and while u can fit mach with 3 te and 3ven tc u can fit 4 gyros and dmg rig putting it with mor3 rang3 paper dps and real dps because it will ev3n out track that silly 3 pg mod fit you post3d.

You still work with limited range slower ship less dps ,agility and drones, tracking and range.

st9ck AC range is horrible no m2d will help you there.

Dps is different one have it more before dron3s and even more after because on mach u can use 4 sentry or heavy and still have flight of smalls.

agility is not the same nor does is speed.

And there is difference in being flying brick and must go close to do any dmg and being effective and not having to do so...

also that fir you posred will not have better tracking than any other mini bs using few tracking mods machariel included.

It will run for 2 minutes and can easily do 100km. Once you are within 26km can you take all the cap back from NPC battleships and do not have to fear any low recharge times. The cap will fill up pretty fast.

The first pocket of the WC is a stretch, but then take it into the next pockets - you will obliterate the battleships at only 3km distance while tanking them easily. In The Damsel can you park right on top of the Pleasure Hub and do not have to move much. You kill the hub, wait for all battleships to appear, put a vampire on a battleship each and tank entire groups of battleships while you take them apart. The Assault against Serpentis with all them sensor dampeners is pretty similar. You kill everything at close range. I would not want to take the Vargur into a The Blockade against Sansha, because of all the tracking disruption and EM+Thermal damage, but it would not be impossible and only be a mission it would not do exceedingly well in.

In Mining Misappropriation will you sometimes have to pulse the MWD, because the groups of battleships appear with large gaps inbetween and one kills the ships so fast that one cannot fill up the capacitor to full in the short time. But even when pulsed is the average speed still somewhere around 500 m/s.

I am guessing that Mina is using a mobile phone to write the comments. It is likely a reflex to type like this when it is done over a phone.