Crime & Punishment

Sigh.

Point taken.

All but the wardec exploit... thats total BS no matter how long its been around.

Yea I laugh at New Orders permit thing as well. My corp used to be in NO so called territory's. Im a miner/ small gang fighter all you have to do is find the times there not very active and then mine. Use to do it all the time before we moved to null. Now there's better ore and the worse I worry about is guardian rats and BS's spawning. Gankers don't last long in null cause the pipe kills most of them before they even get close. Only groups survive most times. As I've said before I disagree with the game play of NO but recently even members of my alliance have been doing it. Do I approve no but its there right to do so.

Lol not in this lifetime specially since its active miners there ganking not bots. If its not for a official war with war decs involved ill not bother to gank miners period. I'm not a criminal or a terrorist therefore there is no reason for me to even go that route. I have my Honor to maintain and there's nothing Honorable about killing miners who can't fight me back on equal footing.

Here in America, we believe in using overwhelming force against the wrongdoers. Criminal miners deserve to be dealt with swiftly and firmly. The miners operating without permits and against the Code are the criminals here. I sure hope you don't talk like this in your own corp. Equal footing ended around the time of the redcoats- it didn't work out so well.

Remember to read www.minerbumping.com for more information. If you spend too much time talking to miners instead, your mind might be poisoned further.

National Socialist comparisons? Have you really stooped that low? You're about a year too late for those, and by no means unique.

Highsec mining isn't really the cornerstone of anything, simply because of the fact that the ores for refining the minerals, necessary for building the ships that are necessary for battle are located in lowsec, nullsec, and worm space.

Meanwhile, veldspar is everywhere, and there is not a lot of ISK in it compared to hemorphite. Good luck finding that in highsec in any meaningful quantities.

Meanwhile, you claim that the great thing about this game is that you can do whatever you want, but yet out of the other side of your mouth, you have plenty of disapproving words for us and our actions.

Allow me to be frank with you. I suggest that you either get over yourself, or else admit that you're a total hypocrite in this matter.

Fact is, there are consequences to EVERY choice you make in EVE.

I face the consequence of losing security status, having bounties and kill rights placed against myself, plus the loss of a ship for every bot aspirant miner I catch mining without a permit. Same as the bot aspirant miner faces the consequence of getting ganked, and podded, for mining without a permit.

And yes, the highsec miners should learn to play the game, and to defend themselves. That is our entire point. However, the smart money dictates that the miners that have a brain will get a permit, knowing that there will be more rocks for them once the bot aspirant operations are disrupted. Also, 10 million ISK for a year is hardly extortionate, seeing that you can get that from an hour's worth of mining. I've made more than triple that amount just from looting ONE wreck!

If this aspect of our activity really bothers you that much, then maybe you should consider playing World of Warcraft, instead. That way, you can play your game, your way, like the cuddly little carebear that you are, and you'll never have to whine about having to deal with any meaningful challenges in your life. Just imagine, to have all the good things in life just handed to you on a silver platter without having to put any work in it. Ahhh, yes. Wouldn't that be nice?

Sorry. EVE doesn't work that way, and neither does real life. Unfortunately, the fact that you can't comprehend this inconvenient little truth is what's the real joke here.

Yes, try and gank us. Go ahead and stop mining. Try and raise that price of Veldspar! Pretend there is no lowsec / nullsec space out there.

I am well positioned to take advantage of the rise in price, even if you were to actually succeed in that! That will not only result in more profit for myself, but more shares invested in the New Order as well.

You guys don't even know.

For the New Order!

The thing is: It was the carebears, the miners and mission runners, who cried for CCP to allow dropping/reforming corp to avoid wardecs. They cried that it was unfair that they have to put up with a war and aren't allowed to form a new corp to evade it. So the crying became so much that CCP ruled it was no exploit to do so. James 315, the New Order and every ganker out there would be glad to see this move declared an exploit, trust me.

But I fear the forums will not be able to withstand the carebear rage should that ever happen.

Ah but then that there is the rub isn't it? Your code isn't even recognized by the powers that be. Otherwise you wouldn't lose security statis or get concorded if it was. Seeing as how I'm a director in the corp yes I do say this stuff and they agree with me. Specially in regards to your methods. We view the New Order as mobsters cause of there extortionist ways. We oppose anyone who says we should have to buy a permit to mine ore.

Oh yes, I am aware it was the carebears who did that. I however, am not a carebear. I dont do missions. I dont mine. I dont even do hisec.

But I dont think your right about James being glad to see this declared an exploit, since he is the one who uses it...

Oh, I hope so much that this policy gets changed, that wardecs follow people dropping corp. Maybe you're right about James, but I guess he will find clever ways around it - and use the wardec mechanism himself to bring other corps in line.