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Import/export of settings! - How do you want it to work?

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Wild Geese.
#61 - 2013-07-11 03:24:48 UTC
While it is currently possible to save the overview tabs and checkboxes... what would be be INCREDIBLY nice is to save the selected/deselected states (e.g. whether a person in your corp/alliance shows up on the overview or not).

This single thing is quite possibly THE MOST painful and time consuming part setting up the overview. Because you can never get it right, know for sure if it's working right, and even if you did everything right the overview will sometimes glitch and won't do anything.

If it isn't possible to save this part of the overview... then move the files serverside... if that isn't possible then scrap the whole overview and start over.
Atomic Option
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2013-07-11 15:56:37 UTC
3 pages and no one mentioned import/export fittings in EFT format!Shocked

When I get a fit from a friend or a km or EFT I want to be able to get it into my client with ctrl-v.
I want to be able to copy them out of the client with ctrl-c.

Dealing with the list of xml files somewhere in my filesystem is a pain when I don't care about files in the first place. I only want to export to file when I'm saving ALL of my fits for backup or a new character.

Kithian Hastos
EVE University
Ivy League
#63 - 2013-07-11 20:44:07 UTC
Already been said but pretty much saving everything except graphics would be great.

Saving to CCP server automatically, and it loads up whenever the account/character logs onto a new computer would also be handy.

I never thought of it, but sharing settings within a corporation much like fittings would be a great idea.
Andrea Griffin
#64 - 2013-07-14 13:39:11 UTC
I'd rather have my settings stored on the server so that import/export wasn't necessary.
S1euth
Eden Risk Management
#65 - 2013-07-14 15:34:20 UTC
Bookmarks are similar to a setting or configuration. I've always wanted to import/export bookmarks between accounts or characters. Blink
Flux Astraeus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2013-07-16 12:26:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Flux Astraeus
Everything stored on the server would be nice.
Also different settings profiles that are the same but adjust window placement to match if you change screen resolution on different computers.
The ability to export and import all settings to a config file with the touch of a button, and have it populate.
So you can easily uninstall and reinstall you client if it decides to go mental.

With reference to Mac users as well.
The settings files are too deep in the filing directories to easily find and manipulate , it should be easier if anything.
Employing the ability to either one click save all your settings to a config file as mentioned above.
Including bookmarks.

On bookmarks It would also be a nice feature to be able to remotely share exploration bookmarks between players through exploration journals.
Also the ability to import export bookmarks to files that don't take up bookmark slots that you can load back on your interface if you need them again.So when you run out of bookmarks you can easily remove and index them for later use allowing
Also would be nice to see a few overview templates available with the basic forms rather than just the one default All tab.
So a user could easily set up an overview which had complete template tabs already made for common uses, such as Travel, PvP, PVE,Drones, Exploration, Mning.Also putting the filter states in the correct order or prority.
Also would be great to allow fits to be able to import and export them through the in game browser from browser text files.
Siri Exotic
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-07-17 14:37:13 UTC
I just want to set the the HUD and Overview once and import it to other characters.

Still have to set Tabs, Still have to move windows around etc...

Export all settings in the game, and import them ALL to another character... Returning to the game after a break and a fresh install can be a pain in the ass having to go through everything. It would just be nice to get it right once and be able to replicate it accross accounts/characters.
Goran Konjich
Krompany
#68 - 2013-07-19 13:31:07 UTC
1. All
2. Cloud
3. Drag and drop in chat window.

I think this is it. Thank you.

I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.

Geiko Sul
Mahe Ratu
#69 - 2013-07-19 15:57:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Geiko Sul
I usually make a backup of the settings directory, so i think the best is a settings export mechanic saving as much client/character configuration as possible, overviews, tabs, drone groups, probe filters, etc.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-07-19 16:00:39 UTC
Atomic Option wrote:
3 pages and no one mentioned import/export fittings in EFT format!


You mean Excell format?

All I want is to click the dam thing "Import" or "Export" and it does directly to the specific folder without having to alt tab yadaya, I understand PC nerds love clicks and alt tabs shift+CTRLs and alts while F1+whatever crap because they feel smart, but it's such a pain in the butt !! It's simply silly.

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne

Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#71 - 2013-07-23 13:29:42 UTC
1) What settings would you like to have stored?
Individual settings for the graphics card and monitor used for each char would be very useful. I want to log in my main on the left screen with full settings @ 1920 x 1200 and my alt on the right screen with lower settings @ 1920 x 1080 without setting this manually everytime.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#72 - 2013-07-23 20:08:35 UTC
This is specifically for macs, but I would like to see an easier method of finding the export file. Or at least let me choose the destination of the export. Simply deciding where does it make it so much easier for me to find it.
Aleander Brunsh
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#73 - 2013-07-27 11:46:22 UTC
Let me *not* include channel passwords, starbase passwords, bookmarks (both IGB and space), contacts and notepad contents.

Let me *ignore during import* bookmarks, overview settings, keyboard shortcuts, window layouts.

Also, semi-OT, but let me save the module layout and default orbit/keep distance with a fit :-)
Blastil
Aideron Robotics
#74 - 2013-07-31 19:18:29 UTC
Can we link overviews through chat, so you can click on them and POW you have a correctly setup overview?

To be honest, I would marry the dev who did this, man or woman...
Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
#75 - 2013-08-03 23:28:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Witchking Angmar
In the meantime... Back up the settings files in %localappdata%\CCP\EVE\xxx\settings\ and you're good to go.
Kerdrak
Querry Moon
#76 - 2013-08-04 15:34:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Kerdrak
CCP Fear wrote:
Hello all!

Something that comes up again and again is making how you import/export and share settings better. In some cases it's non-existant. In others it's a overly complex to do. (I'm looking at you Overview.. Especially on a Mac!)

So I've been pondering over it, look around and trying to get a better picture on how it should function within EVE. So here I am and I want your input on it!

Here are a couple of thing I would like your input on, but don't let that discourage you to give general input and feedback on the topic.

1) What settings would you like to have stored?

2) How would you expect the synchronization (import/export) to function? What would the interaction be?

3) How would you go about sharing settings with other players? (directly or in-directly)

These are just some basic questions to get the discussion going. Feel free to add any more within the realm of sharing/import/export of settings.

Best
CCP Fear


1) Overview, windows, fittings and drone/bookmark folders.

2) in your servers? ;) give us a few Mb's to store that configurations but I can live storing that files in my dropbox.

3) Sharing Overview would be AWESOME. I would love it the FC could be able to share his overview with the rest of the fleet, so everyone have a new overview TAB with the FC's settings.
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#77 - 2013-08-04 20:47:44 UTC
Auto Export

In Firefox, there is an option to export the bookmarks as an .html file when the program closes. I take that file and make a backup of it daily. It would be nice to do that with EVE for general settings in an .xml format.


Self Backup

Firefox automatically keeps backups of the last few bookmark lists. They are actually databases. While not human readable, they server their purpose of allowing the program to restore bookmarks if corrupted. It would be great if the client could self-restore with an option for multiple backups.


Settings

Positions: I have my windows in certain places and groupings. When I have to redo them, it costs me time I should spend playing.*

Shortcuts: if they get lost/changed you find out the hard way.

Bookmarks: that is an obvious one.

Last Character Used: When that gets lost it just throws me off.

I think there should be careful consideration over what settings are stored on the server. "Last Character Used" is an example of this, IMHO.



* This is besides the fact that the client doesn't understand window grouping.
(e.g. if I change group-1-window-A, close it, open group-1-window-B, then it opens whatever window-B was (ignoring group-1))
Josef Djugashvilis
#78 - 2013-08-05 15:59:30 UTC
Above all, make it an easy system to use.

My degree in History, from many years ago, is not much use with computers.

Remember us idiots please.

SiSi is an object lesson in how not to do it. Even folk I know who are good with computers tell me it is just awkward almost for the sake of it.

This is not a signature.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#79 - 2013-08-05 17:47:52 UTC
One thing you need to think about is all the hidden settings and how well you're willing to support those.

Over the years, tons of settings have been removed from the settings screen, but are still available in the config files and are still parsed by the client (I'm thinking about things like snapping distance, session timer, nonstandard resolutions).

Ideally, I'd like to see them all exposed. If you are so adamant about not cluttering up the setting screen, at least let power users do what power users always do, and hand-craft the setting files to suit their needs. Being able to precisely place and pre-configure windows would be awesome in this regard since the game currently doesn't offer as much in that area as it used to.
Kallie Rae
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-08-05 17:52:46 UTC
Yes! Please at least let me export all of my overview settings and be able to import them all without having to do a major overhaul each time.