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Which Ship would you like to see remodelled?

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Clementina
University of Caille
#221 - 2013-08-05 12:26:49 UTC
I always throught the extra engine on the Machariel was a spare, for in case one of your other four engines stopped working. CCP should leave it there (maybe in the far far future there should be an animation of a drone swapping it for one of the other engines).
Rumtin
Imperium Technologies
Sigma Grindset
#222 - 2013-08-05 12:44:51 UTC
Harvey James wrote:


shrugs.... but loads of caldari ships have wings so...


Doesn't mean there not ridged and boxy. Look at their design, each one has sharp (almost) 90º angels. The body on most is very squarish, Kestel, Moa, Caracal, Drake, Raven, Bantan, Rokh, Blackbird, Ferox... each of these hulls have very ridged and boxy like designs to them. Its the Caldari look. Wings or no wings, this is the way they were designed.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#223 - 2013-08-05 12:57:14 UTC
Rumtin wrote:
Harvey James wrote:


shrugs.... but loads of caldari ships have wings so...


Doesn't mean there not ridged and boxy. Look at their design, each one has sharp (almost) 90º angels. The body on most is very squarish, Kestel, Moa, Caracal, Drake, Raven, Bantan, Rokh, Blackbird, Ferox... each of these hulls have very ridged and boxy like designs to them. Its the Caldari look. Wings or no wings, this is the way they were designed.


i get what you mean now... but caldari are supposed to be efficient so boxy designs don't seem very efficient to me it would make sense if they smoothed those boxy edges down a bit and focus on improving the wings and symmetry of the ships

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Rumtin
Imperium Technologies
Sigma Grindset
#224 - 2013-08-05 13:21:03 UTC
Well yeah, symmetry is prefered I think, looking back at the old scorpion that looked like a broken boomerang I don't see how many people enjoyed flying that ugly thing. I believe that most people who argue against symmetry say that its because were in space, there's no friction or resistance against the ships movemenst. However I don't think there's many ships in eve that look good that arnt also symmetrical, but as they say, "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder."

My position is with others, that I'm ok with making the ships look better that seriously need it (Moa), but I don't want the character traits of the faction to disapear because of the redesign.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#225 - 2013-08-05 13:50:13 UTC
Asymmetry is okay, but 80% of all ships being asymmetrical isn't cool.
Maximillian German
Task Force Coalition
#226 - 2013-08-05 13:54:46 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Dominix

Imicus



Don't you ••••••• touch my space potato

But i'll agree, the Imicus is ugly as sin
CCP BunnyVirus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#227 - 2013-08-05 14:39:09 UTC
Harvey James wrote:
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Cassius Invictus wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
ZeeWolf Novus wrote:
Any and all asymmetrical ships.

Mega/Mach model has a random engine on top please remove it



The odd engine thingi on Mach and Mega looks just stupid and annoying. For gods sake this engine is not even working! Also pls remove the side sponson on the front of the Omen. Don’t damage my beloved Amarr ships with asymmetric design! Leave that for Minmatar junk ;).

Also Absolution/Prophecy - the model is very cool, but outdated . It is too fat and too short. Make it longer and remove the fat belly, it looks like it’s pregnant…

BTW if u change my dear Absolution to Harbinger model I will hack EVE, fly a dread fleet to high sec and destroy every station with your clone on it. Then again a Hurricane model on on Sleipnir would be sexy.

Ps. Don’t care for Caldari much but their entire frigate, cruiser an probably bc line needs a serious work (with nuclear blasts).



That Engine thing on the mega is not an engineAttention


whatever it is it needs to be deleted


nope

3D Artist
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#228 - 2013-08-05 14:43:03 UTC
Ships aren't necessarily symmetrical in real life. Just look at any aircraft carrier - the command tower will be off the one side of the flight deck, and the deck itself is usually an asymmetric shape.

Not everybody is so OCD as to find even the slightest hint of asymmetry annoying - I personally like them.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Drone 16
Holy Horde
#229 - 2013-08-05 15:00:00 UTC
imicus...I still can't forgive CCP for changing that hull to Cov Ops Cry

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#230 - 2013-08-05 15:11:34 UTC
Typhoon right click trash create new one.

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Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#231 - 2013-08-05 15:16:42 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Ships aren't necessarily symmetrical in real life. Just look at any aircraft carrier - the command tower will be off the one side of the flight deck, and the deck itself is usually an asymmetric shape.

Not everybody is so OCD as to find even the slightest hint of asymmetry annoying - I personally like them.
This is very true. Some ships have good asymmetry--the Kestrel, Omen, Thanatos, for examples. Some ships have good asymmetry but could use some love (Atron, Navitas, Blackbird). Some ships, though, are asymmetrical for the sake of being asymmetrical and thus are not well received (Griffin/Moa/Burst), while some ships are just flat-out ugly (Celestis--I mean seriously, get on this; it's hideous!).

But CCP, you see the pattern here? Do you see people crying out at the ugly state of Amarr ships?? Do you see them wailing on Minmatar? I don't. Don't get me wrong: the Apocalypse and Tempest redesigns (and the Megathron, too) took good-looking ships and made them great. But there's many, MANY ships still in the Caldari and Gallente lines that are ugly for the sake of being different (Bantam/Imicus)--ships that are universally regarded as ugly (with the one or two outliers who like them, to be sure), but by-and-large people don't like them, and those are the ones that need looking at first--well, not looking at....that's the problem. They're ugly.

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#232 - 2013-08-05 15:20:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Harvey James
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
ZeeWolf Novus wrote:
Any and all asymmetrical ships.

Mega/Mach model has a random engine on top please remove it



Quote:
The odd engine thingi on Mach and Mega looks just stupid and annoying. For gods sake this engine is not even working! Also pls remove the side sponson on the front of the Omen. Don’t damage my beloved Amarr ships with asymmetric design! Leave that for Minmatar junk ;).

Also Absolution/Prophecy - the model is very cool, but outdated . It is too fat and too short. Make it longer and remove the fat belly, it looks like it’s pregnant…

BTW if u change my dear Absolution to Harbinger model I will hack EVE, fly a dread fleet to high sec and destroy every station with your clone on it. Then again a Hurricane model on on Sleipnir would be sexy.

Ps. Don’t care for Caldari much but their entire frigate, cruiser an probably bc line needs a serious work (with nuclear blasts).



That Engine thing on the mega is not an engineAttention

whatever it is it needs to be deleted

nope


are you telling me that it actually adds something to those models????

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Isaak Artorius
Perkone
Caldari State
#233 - 2013-08-05 15:29:54 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
The most dramatic ships that need a total remodel.. The Dominix.... the Dominix by FAAAAAAAAAAR.

The Dominix is the old workhorse of the Gallente Navy. More to that is that this workhorse has been redone quite a bit, and while being a mainstay of the Gallente Navy, is massively out of date regarding spec's. If I were a gambling man, I would leave the Navy Dominix as the current Dominix hull (the Spacewhale, potato shoe turd), and re-purpose the base Dominix to This:

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Naru-Kami-Final-179403464

That ship took 2nd place. Just tint it green.

I would love the Vexor to be redone, maybe look something like this.

http://baranha.deviantart.com/art/FUJIN-FINAL-181896594

Now looking at its design from the Vexor, the changes are not overly substantial. Again I would leave the Navy Vexor as the original Vexor hull (The Gallente Navy don't like spending isk on new design ships when they can just buy the old ones rotting away for cheap and repurpose them), and change the Vexor and the Ishtar to the above (gives the newer people interesting new ship designs while keeping the old workhorse as the new navy variant).

Yes I know these are iconic, but Iconic does not mean "Stuck as is forever," they aren't historical monuments. The original flavor of the ships will be kept in the navy version of the hulls (which is important as the navy would keep an older model as it would cost the Navy Department Much Less to buy the old Dominix's and repurpose them, than buy the new updated model just to make them as useful as the old models, but cost a bunch more for designer "fluff".

You can design two new hulls for these two old favorites, re-giving them life.

The other benefit, the two above art submissions were submitted through your eve arts contest, so I believe you have the right to use these ship designs ALREADY (submissions are legal tender that they give up the right of the design and maybe used in game as CCP sees fit, check your legal).


That design is more along Caldari lines of ship design - Corax draws heavily on navy/submarine theme. If the devs give me a caldari gunboat looking like that I will give them my firstborn. Shocked

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SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#234 - 2013-08-05 15:30:19 UTC
Are there even plans for a Moa/Typhoon remodel ?
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#235 - 2013-08-05 15:32:54 UTC
Isaak Artorius wrote:
Phoenix Jones wrote:
The most dramatic ships that need a total remodel.. The Dominix.... the Dominix by FAAAAAAAAAAR.

The Dominix is the old workhorse of the Gallente Navy. More to that is that this workhorse has been redone quite a bit, and while being a mainstay of the Gallente Navy, is massively out of date regarding spec's. If I were a gambling man, I would leave the Navy Dominix as the current Dominix hull (the Spacewhale, potato shoe turd), and re-purpose the base Dominix to This:

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Naru-Kami-Final-179403464

That ship took 2nd place. Just tint it green.

I would love the Vexor to be redone, maybe look something like this.

http://baranha.deviantart.com/art/FUJIN-FINAL-181896594

Now looking at its design from the Vexor, the changes are not overly substantial. Again I would leave the Navy Vexor as the original Vexor hull (The Gallente Navy don't like spending isk on new design ships when they can just buy the old ones rotting away for cheap and repurpose them), and change the Vexor and the Ishtar to the above (gives the newer people interesting new ship designs while keeping the old workhorse as the new navy variant).

Yes I know these are iconic, but Iconic does not mean "Stuck as is forever," they aren't historical monuments. The original flavor of the ships will be kept in the navy version of the hulls (which is important as the navy would keep an older model as it would cost the Navy Department Much Less to buy the old Dominix's and repurpose them, than buy the new updated model just to make them as useful as the old models, but cost a bunch more for designer "fluff".

You can design two new hulls for these two old favorites, re-giving them life.

The other benefit, the two above art submissions were submitted through your eve arts contest, so I believe you have the right to use these ship designs ALREADY (submissions are legal tender that they give up the right of the design and maybe used in game as CCP sees fit, check your legal).


That design is more along Caldari lines of ship design - Corax draws heavily on navy/submarine theme. If the devs give me a caldari gunboat looking like that I will give them my firstborn. Shocked


i would just love some proper blaster caldari gunboats instead of always being railgun based

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#236 - 2013-08-05 15:35:03 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:


That Engine thing on the mega is not an engineAttention


whatever it is it needs to be deleted


nope

just release a symmetrical megathron with dronebay of 75m3 and drone bandwidth of 0Mbit i'm sure it'll be a smashing success
Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#237 - 2013-08-05 15:45:14 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
Harvey James wrote:
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:


That Engine thing on the mega is not an engineAttention


whatever it is it needs to be deleted


nope

just release a symmetrical megathron with dronebay of 75m3 and drone bandwidth of 0Mbit i'm sure it'll be a smashing success
Megathron is already a smashing success.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#238 - 2013-08-05 15:53:25 UTC
Maximus Andendare wrote:
Megathron is already a smashing success.

i am sorry in my previous post i forgot to use the blatant sarcasm smiley Straight
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#239 - 2013-08-05 16:32:50 UTC
anyone think there are too many mega variations? 4 seems a little too many ...
Change the kronos to the Hyperion model would make sense.... maybe change vindi a little to a more unique model

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Mainiac IV
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#240 - 2013-08-05 16:37:48 UTC
CCP BunnyVirus wrote:
I'm listening



Harbinger! thing is fugly!

amarr victor