Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What systems can these miner bumpers be found in? I want to experiment. Apologies for my ignorance but I have never mined and am unlearned in the ways or ore collection.

So shoot them.

I agree with freedom is not free, but if low end minerals came only from nullsec, low end mineral prices would skyrocket.
Unless industrial centers were moved to nullsec, in which case LOL GOOD LUCK because nobody in nullsec wants to make isk any way other than ratting in their carriers and skimming off moon profits.

Hello Eve,

Something has come to my attention and is quite disturbing.
The New Order.

Know about them or not, they are THE issue of High Security space. Regardless that 10million ISK is an easy feat to obtain.
This is somewhat of a recent development, but while GOONS and TEST are slugging it out or doing whatever they are doing, The New Order is coming in under the radar and taking over High Security space.

Some see this 10million ISK for a year, an okay ideal. But this is simply extortion of in-game currency for privileges and for some we pay our money our real life money that we have worked for.
For a really good example of what is happening now, reference the history of the world, how many wars have been fought and bleed for, over someone trying to make a profit that is inhuman for one person to posses.
War is a natural state or mechanic of Eve, but this New Order Mechanic is not acceptable by an logic or reasoning.

Their are numerous reports of the New Order Tyranny, that have disrupted the natural state of gaming experience that is Eve.
Even if CCP as acknowledge this a "natural" mechanic this is simple bullshit.
Hence applied link https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=239345

The bare minimum solution is a legitimate undesirable consequence from bumping any of the Mining ship classes the Industry ship classes and Hauling ship classes which retain to, the Mining Barges both T1 and T2 class including the mining frigate, the Industry ship including all the faction haulers, Badger, Badger MkII, all 5 of the Iterons, the Sigle and Bestower, the 3 of the Minmitar ships, as well as the T2 versions and the faction version of named ships. This will include freighter of the capital ship classes.

Think about it honestly, for those of use that are Miners new and or old, this is how we play Eve and this is what we pay for with our real life currency, in-game currency and most important of all our time. The New Order is a disruption of the natural flow of Eve, Even if its seen a part of the game or game mechanic .

This is an amazing thread. I can't figure out whether it's a genuine grievance thread or a cunning publicity stunt by James 315 and crew.

Whilst I consider high sec miner hassling to be a bit on the lowdown side I do have to doff my cap at him if he and his really are making as much isk as he's publicising off the inability of those in high sec to think around the problem he and New Order are posing.

What they're doing is certainly not against any of the rules imposed by CCP. If people want to pay extortionists and protection racketeers that's their choice and whilst some do EVE will include those types of characters and play styles.

I was going to post a massive explanation of how to get round these kinds of things in EVE but to be honest I'm not sure it's worth it. Those that can adapt do (and have already been given plenty of pointers by other posters in this thread) and those that can't either leave or pay up. Seems like darwinism at work, to me.

did they undock? then they are at risk :P

and yes wardec mechanics are BS.