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PIRATE FACTION Marauders (Tech II battleships) should be introduced.
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Flage22
Free Space Combat Industries
#1 - 2013-08-04 19:12:41 UTC
Hello,

Im just wondering if this idea could be implemented, for as long as the Angel Cartel, Sansha, Blood Raiders, and Guristas, have been fighting the Caldari, Amarr, Gallente and Minmatar as well as all the capsuleers out there you would think the would have gained the tech to create a Marauder to call their own. I mean Sansha developed a mother ship. I don't think its to far fetched to say the pirate factions can develope a Marauder. Player if you agree please show your support below! Devs i thank you for your time =)
WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-08-04 19:15:24 UTC
Although I would like a T2 Mach, the pirate factions don't have T2 ships. Instead there base ships are better(or are suppose to be *cough*phantasm*cough*).
Flage22
Free Space Combat Industries
#3 - 2013-08-04 19:21:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Flage22
This is true however the pirates are known for adapting and stealing the tech of their enemies i don't think its that far fetched for the Pirate Factions do develop a Tech II batltleship. Plus if you think about it all the Empires in eve have standard ships, and navyships which are better than the standard and Tech II ships so for the pirate factions to have tech II battleships shouldn't be that far from reality.
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
#4 - 2013-08-04 20:00:35 UTC
Flage22 wrote:
This is true however the pirates are known for adapting and stealing the tech of their enemies i don't think its that far fetched for the Pirate Factions do develop a Tech II batltleship. Plus if you think about it all the Empires in eve have standard ships, and navyships which are better than the standard and Tech II ships so for the pirate factions to have tech II battleships shouldn't be that far from reality.

It's not so much about reality as about balance. The current lineup of pirate battleships is already superior in most ways to Marauders. Making an even more powerful line would be a bit much.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#5 - 2013-08-04 20:06:14 UTC
They need a decent Pirate missile ship (camo Raven like we see the Pith flying around).

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Katia Echerie
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#6 - 2013-08-04 20:11:59 UTC
Hmmm not to burst your bubble but in most cases Pirate is better than T2. The trade off comes with resists. I would like to see pirate ships having racial resists compatible with their pirate factions, that would be cool, though they would still have to be t1 level as they would be overpowered otherwise. In truth, the limiting factor with pirate ships is their cost, if they were cheap it would be best to field a pirate ship over T2 pretty much every time.

Take the Vindicator vs the Kronos. The only advantage the Kronos has over the Vindicator is that it has utility highs. The Vindicator is better all around, having more EHP, DPS and slot layout than the Kronos. The trend goes on with the other 4 pirate battleships.

Still, I would risk saying that some pirate battleships could use a slight buff now that Navy variants have been buffed slightly. As is right now I would be almost inclined to pick a Navy Megathron over the Vindicator because of bang for buck. The Navy Mega trading a mid for a low and having one less turret.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#7 - 2013-08-04 20:43:14 UTC
Katia Echerie wrote:


Take the Vindicator vs the Kronos. The only advantage the Kronos has over the Vindicator is that it has utility highs. The Vindicator is better all around, having more EHP, DPS and slot layout than the Kronos. The trend goes on with the other 4 pirate battleships.


Kronos has better resistances, a stronger active tank, and like you said, utility highs.

Kronos eat vindis for breakfast in 1v1.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#8 - 2013-08-04 20:46:31 UTC
can we fix the current marauders first beforebadding new ones? we can't even decide on how to balance the ships that already exist. what role do you expect these new marauders to fill?
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-08-04 20:47:33 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:
Katia Echerie wrote:


Take the Vindicator vs the Kronos. The only advantage the Kronos has over the Vindicator is that it has utility highs. The Vindicator is better all around, having more EHP, DPS and slot layout than the Kronos. The trend goes on with the other 4 pirate battleships.


Kronos has better resistances, a stronger active tank, and like you said, utility highs.

Kronos eat vindis for breakfast in 1v1.



Vindi pilot actually is smart enough or has an IQ greater than a chicken and remembers it can fit ECM drones in his large drone bay or a multispec jammer in mids.

RIP Kronos

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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#10 - 2013-08-04 20:48:57 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
They need a decent Pirate missile ship (camo Raven like we see the Pith flying around).


so long as it doesnt rely on drones I'm fine with the idea. if it has tue raven hull then I definitely think it could stand to be fast and have high dps over tanky with drones