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Logitech G15 - Limitation implemented by CCP?
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Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-08-04 18:18:27 UTC
Hi ppl.

Using a Mac with Mac Os X 10.7.5 and a Logitech G15 (backlight).

Problem is I can not program the buttons to combine 2 keys like Ctrl + F1.
Programming one single key like F1 is not a problem.

Does anyone know if this is an implemented limitation of the game?
Or is it perhaps a bug on my side?

Regards,

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Dare Knight
Bandwagoners
#2 - 2013-08-04 18:31:39 UTC
It's a bug on your side. Download the latest drivers online. I can't really offer more support as I've always downloaded them.

_It's very simple, really. If you see Tengus on scan, they are ratting. If you see a shitload of Tengus, the Russians are blobbing. If you see Proteuses on scan, they will be on top of you in about a second. If you see a shitload of Proteuses, the big boys are having a goodfight. _
rofflesausage
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-08-04 18:47:40 UTC
Logitech G15 and Windows 7 works fine with multiple CTRL+F keys, so it's probably your superior OS having an issue.
Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-08-04 18:56:30 UTC
It works fine its just you.
Marcus Harikari
#5 - 2013-08-04 19:05:36 UTC
eve was the only program that wouldn't let me bind shift and alt keys to my logitech mouse before...so...i think it might be EVE
Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-08-04 19:14:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Fighter Maurset
Thanks for the feedback.

Taken into consideration that Logitech recently re-released their drivers for Mac,
they perhaps only tested them with Os X 10.8.

Looks like I need to uppgrade in order to find out...

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#7 - 2013-08-04 19:58:46 UTC
Fighter Maurset wrote:

Problem is I can not program the buttons to combine 2 keys like Ctrl + F1.
Programming one single key like F1 is not a problem.



You can also reassign the combo (LS1 I believe) to a different single key within Eve as a work around until you get this resolved.

I like to assign and mix my frequently used HS/MS/LS in a personalized order between the F1-F12 buttons which are then mapped to G1-G12 keys.
Signal11th
#8 - 2013-08-05 12:02:49 UTC
All you need in this game is F1 anyway.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-08-18 19:44:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Fighter Maurset
Tried uppgrading OS X. Still not working with EVE.
However I can confirm that key binding IS working perfectly well with simple programs such as Notes and games such as Diablo 3. It is just NOT working with EVE...


The reason why this is such a "BIG" issue is because:
1, I spent money on the keyboard.
2, It would be nice to bind to the G keys without messing up the entire original shortcut setup.
3, You cant simply overwrite one shortcut with a new one. You have to find the occupied key and release it first...
4, After using such a keyboard for a while, one does become a spoiled little brat ;o)

So what has the development team done..?

---UPDATE---
Key bindings are working in the chat window. But not in the rest of the game...

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#10 - 2013-08-18 21:38:08 UTC
Just get a real computer
Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-08-18 21:42:20 UTC
You are running eve on a mac, which is running inside a cider shell. I guess its safe to assume the problem lies in that translation layer.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2013-08-18 21:45:16 UTC
Most likely, you're getting some interference between how the Logitech input layer sends keyboard events and how Cider chooses to interpret those inputs. It could just be that they're not being sent in the right order or with the right nesting (eg. it sends Ctrl-F1 as Ctrl-press, Ctrl-release, F1-press, F1-release rather than leaving the Ctrl-release event until last).

I don't know how detailed the G-key programming software allows you to be, but if you can adjust the exact order and timing of the key events, you might get better results.

Nimrod vanHall wrote:
Just get a real computer

But then he wouldn't be able to play EVE — it kind of requires an x86 system to run, you know.
Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#13 - 2013-08-18 22:25:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nimrod vanHall
Earlier trolling aside:

If i remember myG15 from 5-6 years ago right you need to bind keys together to get the G15 key so that behind G1 is say "-ALT- 1 k" and behind G2 is "-ALT- 2 k"
I remember that i got into problems if i used a combination with a G15 keyboard if the G button + extra push would result into a total of 4 keys(virtuel) beeing pused together at the same time. nothing would happen then.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#14 - 2013-08-19 03:43:11 UTC
I used to have that keyboard, now I use G110

Never had this issue...

...
Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#15 - 2013-08-19 05:12:39 UTC
May have been a G17 as well
Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-08-19 07:04:03 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
I used to have that keyboard, now I use G110

Never had this issue...


Running on Windows, Mac or both systems?

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-08-19 07:17:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Fighter Maurset
Nimrod vanHall wrote:
Earlier trolling aside:

If i remember myG15 from 5-6 years ago right you need to bind keys together to get the G15 key so that behind G1 is say "-ALT- 1 k" and behind G2 is "-ALT- 2 k"
I remember that i got into problems if i used a combination with a G15 keyboard if the G button + extra push would result into a total of 4 keys(virtuel) beeing pused together at the same time. nothing would happen then.


Well the thing is that something is happening when I activate a "programmed" key.
But not what I want it to be. If I bind Alt + F1, then only F1 will be activated.

The Logitech software allows us to program the keys very detalied. Such as time delay between each keypress, and to know the difference between a key press and a key release. However... I dont know of any way to test if this is actually "working as intended" in EVE... (quote from Blizzard)

And yes, that keyboard works perfectly in every version of Windows since the XP version was released.
But right now I happen to be using a Mac...

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
Alostrael Kundri
Yaar Birds
#18 - 2013-08-19 08:29:04 UTC
I've had this problem on a Mac with my G15, with multiple programs. There is an issue with the G15 and binding modifiers with any Cider wrapped game (like EVE). Nothing you can do to fix it.
Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-08-19 19:43:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tron 3K
lawl.. Idiots trying to play games on Mac.. You deserve all the problems.. The only time you should be using a Mac is.... never.. Used to say it was better for doing video / photo editing but this day and age spend a couple hundred extra for some more ram and your gaming PC will be ready for the photos and videos!

*edit* Oh and by when I say a few hundred dollars that price point is still under the money you spend on a Mac..
Fighter Maurset
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-08-19 21:45:09 UTC
Alright thanks for the feedback. Having discovered what Transgamings Cider is, Im giving up...

If my pilot is certain to face death... I want full ramming speed towards the enemy ship...
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