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What Are Survey Scanners Used For?
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Cedric Kadiev
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-04 00:23:41 UTC
Hello, new player here. In all the mining fits I've seen people are using survey scanners. I know you can use them to see how much ore an asteroid has, I'm just curious as to why that matters. If it is a small asteroid then it will be mined quickly and you can move on to the next one, why do you need to know its size though? The one reason I figure it could be for is if you could mine a small asteroid in one cycle, thus meaning if you could mine 1000m3 per minute and the asteroid had 800m3 of ore you have wasted 200m3. Although in my Venture that is not a problem but people are still telling me to fit it. Also, can you use them for things out side of mining?
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-08-04 00:32:21 UTC
Yes, in high sec it's interesting to know how much is left in a belt/asteroid to manage your strip miner cycles. But in something like a venture it's not so important. I don't even fit them to barges, but I do usually scan the field first to find the best spot to sit (usually in a frigate). Micromanaging strip mining lasers is the game telling you that life is too short.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2013-08-04 00:33:55 UTC
Because if there is only 1 unit left in the rock you can shut off the stripper and move to the next rock instead of wasting 2+ minutes mining 1 pathetic unit. Also, it's a pain to move lasers constantly so the scanner is useful for an initial belt sweep to see how full the rocks are at that time. They do grow in size.

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GreenSeed
#4 - 2013-08-04 05:17:06 UTC
using them means you can leave your overview with ships and celestials, instead of filled with asteroids, since the results page can be used for targeting and all.


still never fit that if you can fit tank, any tank will be better, even a civilian shield booster.
Dave Stark
#5 - 2013-08-04 07:50:07 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
using them means you can leave your overview with ships and celestials, instead of filled with asteroids, since the results page can be used for targeting and all.


still never fit that if you can fit tank, any tank will be better, even a civilian shield booster.


a civilian shield booster is next to pointless.

and the exhumers generally all have fitting issues as far as putting a worth while tank goes, except the skiff.
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#6 - 2013-08-04 14:11:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Job Valador
cant target gas clouds without one.

EDIT: that is unless ive been doing it wrong my whole eve life which is not entirely impossible.

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Whitehound
#7 - 2013-08-04 14:15:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Know you can get simple questions answers very quickly on the Rookie Help and Help chat in game.

There is also a forum section for new players called EVE New Citizens Q&A.

For advanced questions on modules should you try asking in Ships & Modules.

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Photosynth
#8 - 2013-08-04 14:29:41 UTC
Job Valador wrote:
cant target gas clouds without one.

EDIT: that is unless ive been doing it wrong my whole eve life which is not entirely impossible.

You can put gas clouds on the overview and target them from there.

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GreenSeed
#9 - 2013-08-04 19:24:17 UTC  |  Edited by: GreenSeed
Dave Stark wrote:
GreenSeed wrote:
using them means you can leave your overview with ships and celestials, instead of filled with asteroids, since the results page can be used for targeting and all.


still never fit that if you can fit tank, any tank will be better, even a civilian shield booster.


a civilian shield booster is next to pointless.

and the exhumers generally all have fitting issues as far as putting a worth while tank goes, except the skiff.

if the premise when fitting a mackinaw is to maintain max yield and fit the best possible tank, then there's no other permutation of modules that will give a better tank other than 2 active hardeners, one therm, one kin. that's to force 2-3 catalyst ganks as a minimum, leaving 2 free mids and there's nothing tank wise that can go there exept 2 civ shield boosters.

deciding that those 4 shield per second are pointless and leaving the midslots empty when the module will cost you 4k isk, still leaves you cap stable, and allow your tank to stay at 100% if under fire from hsec rats is whats both pointless and puzzling.

now if you want to tank an exhumer and your premise is no longer "it also must have a max yield" then yeah dropping an mlu will allow for better fitting. but so long as 3 MLUs go in the lows there's simply no other permutation of modules better than 2 active hardeners and a cpu rig to make it all fit.

you cant overload a shield extender, hardeners in the other hand. Blink
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#10 - 2013-08-06 04:27:23 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Job Valador wrote:
cant target gas clouds without one.

EDIT: that is unless ive been doing it wrong my whole eve life which is not entirely impossible.

You can put gas clouds on the overview and target them from there.



I figured I missed that in overview settings somewhere. thanks.

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