Intergalactic Summit

1. Heth has been declared a criminal and a terorrist by the CEP.
This 'declaration' is a political move, nothing more. CEP is not CBT, they can say whatever they want and put charges through tribunal, but until the case will be heard in the tribunal, he is NEITHER criminal, NOR terrorist. Besides, it is obvious, that these labels are forged (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=260671)

2. He's been replaced by Kaalakiota as CEO and had his shares taken away.
Unfortunately, by short-sighted shareholders, who prefer momentary profit instead of prosperity of the whole State and much greater profit in the future. Well, let their corporation stagnate, if it is their choice!

3. He's been indicted to be replaced as the CEO of Caldari Constructions, his shares done away with.
But he is STILL NOW CEO of Caldari Constructions!

4. He's been declared guilty of embezzling Kaalakiota's funds to pay for the State Protectorate.
It is not his guilt, that other megacorporations wasn't involved at appropriate level in funding needs of the whole State. Others greed made Kaalakiota to pay much more, because they paid less!

5. He's been declared guilty of the murder of Admiral Yanala Visera, a war hero.
Have you been reading what I have been writing above at all?
HE GAVE HER TEA! HE DIDN'T MAKE HER DRINK!
HE DIDN'T STAB HER, DIDN'T SHOOT HER, DIDN'T POUR TEA INTO HER MOUTH!
It was she herself who took the tea.
You can't be murderer if you don't murder!

Taking someone's life is murder. But providing possibility is not!
For example, if you would ask me to kill you:
- if I draw my gun and shoot you, it will be murder;
- if I place my gun before you and tell you to do it yourself, it won't be murder.

He gave her this gun. But it is she, who pulled the trigger.

6. The CPD has been shut down and dismantled on the orders of the CEP.
And now this is the guilt of CEP, who can't intervene into other corporation affairs. And this case should be heard in the tribunal as well.

7. The Templis Dragonaurs are again declared a terrorist organisation.
And President Roden is green. Karin Midular was killed. And two furriers fought each other for a bowl of food.
Just listing very relevant and important information according to your approach.


My 'malfunction' is abundance of gallente-minded scum, who make me mad, while they are alive and allowed to talk.


Wake up!
He is still a CITIZEN and the CEO!
He tried to not to destroy, but to restore traditions and glory of our ancestors!
The Navy, that rejected, were from Kimotoro fleet, that was hurt in lower part of their body for the case with their Admiral.
And capsuleers, who reject him, in overwhelming majority are these dissident scum that was disloyal to the State since he booted lots of peoples from their positions who took these positions through nepotism.

Now this is simple pathetic.
You know, that I will prefer death to being a gallentean.
But I guess you simply can't even think out better insult and just bark whatever comes to your head first.

So you're denying Ms Akahoshi's claim? There must be some records to prove things one way or the other.

As so much of what you said hinges on this point, I hope you'll forgive me for addressing it alone.

It is possible for an event to happen without another party's consent, but with their knowledge. The appropriate term in this case would be "coercion".

The CPD ruled with bullying tactics and threats, kirjuun. And no, I'm not suggesting that the board would have capitulated to those threats out of weakness, I'm proposing that they may have capitulated out of prudent pragmatism.

Capitulate today so as to see justice done tomorrow? Or mount an ineffectual protest today and be robbed of the opportunity forever? I know which one I'd choose.

I think you have to understand the heinousness of misuse of corporate property in Caldari culture. On Home if the tribal chief misused the tribes food and/or equipment for personal gain it could literally mean the deaths of the majority of the tribe.

Control over property does not necessarily mean ownership of it.

Wait, though. The CPD was entirely an organisation set up to promulgate Heth's cult of personality and to increase it's control over the State. To suggest that funding the CPD wasn't directly benefitting Heth is disingenuous in the extreme.

I'm not a lawyer though. I can't say whether it is miss-appropriation of embezzlement or fraud or theft. I don't much care, to be honest, and neither do the honest workers whose pensions were siphoned off to fund it.

My opposition to the CPD started the day that I was ordered to fire on civilian freighters full of my Kirjuun in support of the Homeguard. I refused that order, engaged the Homeguard ships and sat through an administrative court martial in Pyre Falcon for my trouble.

Yes. I realise that those orders came from management in KK and not through the CPD - but if you look at the string of orders coming from the CPD, CalNav and KK you very quickly realise that they're coming from the same bunch of people - that layer of management created by the Executor when he came to power.

My opposition to the Executor's supporters was not a swift thing. I held out for months against the rising tide of evidence. Eventually, however, it became clear that whenever a tough ethical call was involved, there were always the same people at fault. Members of the same faction. Supporters of the same man.

I tend to take the view that the legal counsel of the Kaalakiota board must be at least as competent as that which is available to any of us capsuleers, Priano-haani. If they are of the opinion that they can make an embezzlement charge stick, I don't feel qualified to disagree.

And so it wasn't a mistake to appoint Heth as Executor of the State, to create a position that had not existed before solely to vest one fiery MTAC operator with authority over the whole of the state? We need not learn the lesson that the fire which is hottest burns us worst? We need not learn that a single man is changeable and dangerous, whereas our institutions and our State can withstand turmoil and crisis?

Well, then. Forget everything I said, kirjuun, and carry on until the next crisis is met with a man of action who you'll gladly follow.

On the embezzlement charge, though, I suspect you have me. If Heth was indeed funding a known terrorist group, and not just the Provists, then he was clearly misappropriating funds for criminal purposes and clearly in breach of the law.

Should he have been given as much authority as he was? Should there have been no checks on that authority?

It would have been one thing to allow him to be first among equals, to follow such wisdom as he offered as a prominent member of the CEP. It's another to abandon our traditions because of fear and anger, to establish above us a would-be emperor, and then to allow fear to prevent us from acting to right the wrong sooner.

If we hold to the idea that we made no mistakes, or that such mistakes as were made were outside of our control, then we damn ourselves to the same path if another crisis arises.