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unidentified Brutor male believed to be between the ages of 18-25, who was apparently taken into cus

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Repentence Tyrathlion
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#21 - 2013-08-02 23:06:18 UTC
Steffanie Saissore wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Frankly I am amazed that the security forces didn't see this coming and move to prevent it.


My fear is that they did, or may have at least some foreknowledge, and simply either chose not to or were told not to. Of course, that could be reading way too much between the lines.


Welcome to the cynical club. We have badges and everything.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-08-02 23:55:11 UTC
So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#23 - 2013-08-03 01:33:48 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful.


You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Ollie Rundle
#24 - 2013-08-03 01:49:22 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful.


You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence?


A somewhat simplistic view of a situation much more complex and multilayered than either of you are giving it credit for.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-08-03 02:26:51 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful.


You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence?


I was SWAT, not a badge. Being on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence wasn't part of my job description.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#26 - 2013-08-03 02:55:23 UTC
Regretfully there is only one solution to the Tribal "problem" within the Federation.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#27 - 2013-08-03 07:53:24 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Now there's a thought. Since we were nice enough to hand Broteau over to Republic justice, they can surely reciprocate by handing over members of a known terrorist organisation.

Funny.

I'll be sure to tip my waiter.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#28 - 2013-08-03 11:12:20 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful.


You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence?

Not sure how relevant it is since I was in charge of patrolling space lanes rather than than being on foot dealing with individuals in person, but I did spend my early years in the watch, and I would have certainly been on the lookout for funny business between civilians when tensions between empires was getting high.

All I can say is, never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
Ugleb
Jotunn Risi
#29 - 2013-08-03 15:59:34 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Now there's a thought. Since we were nice enough to hand Broteau over to Republic justice, they can surely reciprocate by handing over members of a known terrorist organisation.


And if those suspects have no knowledge of or direct connection to Atlanins? What would the point?

Broteau was apprehend at the scene of the crime with overwhelming evidence of his guilt from the outset. You are calling for the Republic hand over individuals who they may not even have in custody with likely only circumstantial connections to a crime against the Federation.

I fail to see what you expect to be gained other than a show trial for political benefit.

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-08-03 16:09:27 UTC
Ugleb wrote:
I fail to see what you expect to be gained other than a show trial for political benefit.

Oh, perish the thought! It wouldn't be like other prisoners that have crossed international borders wound up in a show trial for political benefit. You wound me.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Ganque
Ganque's Squad
#31 - 2013-08-03 17:31:13 UTC
James Syagrius wrote:
Regretfully there is only one solution to the Tribal "problem" within the Federation.


And only one solution to the idiocy of racial supremacists in a culture that depends on immigrants.

This sort of nonsense will only end badly, and I have taken it upon myself to deal harshly with any suspected supporters of this racist garbage that I come across, and the miners that prop up their empire of evil.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-08-03 17:58:27 UTC
Ganque wrote:
a culture that depends on immigrants.

To be clear - the Federation's culture welcomes immigrants. It does not depend on them to survive.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2013-08-03 18:28:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Stitcher wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
So the choice is between incompetence or complicity. Delightful.


You spent longer with a badge than I did, suuolo. Wouldn't you have been on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence?


I was SWAT, not a badge. Being on the lookout for violent troublemakers and ethnic violence wasn't part of my job description.


It was absolutely part of my job description and the events in that location would have had us out on the streets in riot-control uniform working double shifts - just so that trouble makers would know what to expect.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#34 - 2013-08-04 00:11:40 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Ganque wrote:
a culture that depends on immigrants.

To be clear - the Federation's culture welcomes immigrants. It does not depend on them to survive.


The self-medicating schizophrenic bottom makes a good point.
James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#35 - 2013-08-04 01:23:56 UTC
Ganque wrote:
James Syagrius wrote:
Regretfully there is only one solution to the Tribal "problem" within the Federation.


And only one solution to the idiocy of racial supremacists in a culture that depends on immigrants.

This sort of nonsense will only end badly, and I have taken it upon myself to deal harshly with any suspected supporters of this racist garbage that I come across, and the miners that prop up their empire of evil.



Racial supremacy?

You read a good deal into such a short statement.

As to your vow... ~chuckles~
Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#36 - 2013-08-04 22:24:18 UTC
I will be in the street for Gallente-Minmatar solidarity and coexistence. I invite you to join me.

This is not about Roden, or Shakor, or the Alliance's future or lack thereof. We will not allow hatred to divide neighbours and families.

More details, times and places to follow soon.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2013-08-04 23:47:49 UTC
Just be careful WHICH street. What you intend to be a gesture of solidarity might be seen as a provocation.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#38 - 2013-08-05 03:16:47 UTC  |  Edited by: James Syagrius
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Just be careful WHICH street. What you intend to be a gesture of solidarity might be seen as a provocation.

E​excellent situational awareness Sir.

I am impressed.

But still opportunities abound.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#39 - 2013-08-05 07:49:33 UTC
Ugleb wrote:
I fail to see what you expect to be gained other than a show trial for political benefit.


And that, kids, is the definition of irony.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Anslo
Scope Works
#40 - 2013-08-05 11:24:49 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Just be careful WHICH street. What you intend to be a gesture of solidarity might be seen as a provocation.


That would be my street...well Avenue. Whatever.

Andrea Okazon wrote:
I will be in the street for Gallente-Minmatar solidarity and coexistence. I invite you to join me.

This is not about Roden, or Shakor, or the Alliance's future or lack thereof. We will not allow hatred to divide neighbours and families.

More details, times and places to follow soon.


Here's some more detail. Okazon has politely requested to host her even on my Avenue, but I haven't responded quite yet over mail. So I'll do so now.

While we need to talk details, the answer is yes. We'll be in touch.

(hehe how's THAT for solidarity)

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