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[Question] Best Caldari ship to learn pvp in?

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Klown Walk
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-07-13 09:59:29 UTC
[Caracal, caracal]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#42 - 2013-07-14 03:16:52 UTC
[Caracal, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Damage Control II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x2


That is the proper RLM Caracal.

Use Fury ammo for Dessis and larger targets
Use CN for when you need that extra range / shoot MWD frigs
Use Precision for when your tackled by an AB frig / struggling to apply damage to linked frigs.

Caracal is good, but I feel that it is completely outclassed by the RLM Scythe Fleet currently.

Happy Hunting!
Combatevolved
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-07-14 03:26:27 UTC
Pro tip, Never fly Caldari. Worst ships in the game.
Soporo
#44 - 2013-07-14 14:36:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Soporo
Only one guy mentioned the Merlin Sad. Versatile, versatile, versatile.
It's a brawler or ranger and a good small gang boat. Dual web fit, blaster mse fit, autos and rockets even or rails and lm, etc. Ridiculously cheap too. I agree the Kestrel is also winsauce.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken

Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#45 - 2013-07-14 20:37:23 UTC
Soporo wrote:
Only one guy mentioned the Merlin Sad. Versatile, versatile, versatile.
It's a brawler or ranger and a good small gang boat. Dual web fit, blaster mse fit, autos and rockets even or rails and lm, etc. Ridiculously cheap too. I agree the Kestrel is also winsauce.


didn't the merlin get it's lauchers removed in the rebalance? And a hybrid damage buff so why use projectiles?


I personally prefered the pre-balanced merlin. maybe only flown it 3 times since.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#46 - 2013-07-15 03:10:34 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Soporo wrote:
Only one guy mentioned the Merlin Sad. Versatile, versatile, versatile.
It's a brawler or ranger and a good small gang boat. Dual web fit, blaster mse fit, autos and rockets even or rails and lm, etc. Ridiculously cheap too. I agree the Kestrel is also winsauce.


didn't the merlin get it's lauchers removed in the rebalance? And a hybrid damage buff so why use projectiles?


I personally prefered the pre-balanced merlin. maybe only flown it 3 times since.


I wasn't really thrilled with the changes to the merlin either. Basically made it the same as the incursus.

Now with the latest nerf it is basically a not so good incursus.

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Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#47 - 2013-07-15 03:17:46 UTC
Cearain wrote:

I wasn't really thrilled with the changes to the merlin either. Basically made it the same as the incursus.

Now with the latest nerf it is basically a not so good incursus.


What latest nerf? I wasn't aware of any recent changes to the Merlin? I just don't like it much anymore Sad would have been much better if they kept the split system imo as it could always spank the then all powerful rifter and most other frigs tbh.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#48 - 2013-07-15 03:51:26 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Cearain wrote:

I wasn't really thrilled with the changes to the merlin either. Basically made it the same as the incursus.

Now with the latest nerf it is basically a not so good incursus.


What latest nerf? I wasn't aware of any recent changes to the Merlin? I just don't like it much anymore Sad would have been much better if they kept the split system imo as it could always spank the then all powerful rifter and most other frigs tbh.


He's probably talking about the global 5% -> 4% resist bonus thing.
Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-07-15 11:52:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Xequecal
Why do people trot out "you can hit out to 30km!" as a virtue of HAMs? If your intent is to stay out of point range, why would you ever risk that thin of a margin?

HAMs go on heavily tanked ships you intend to use to brawl with inside web/scram range. If you want to kite, use RLMs. If you want to "snipe" with missiles beyond 50km, fly something that can fit cruise launchers. Don't ever use HMLs, they're just really really bad.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#50 - 2013-07-15 13:55:08 UTC
Xequecal wrote:
Why do people trot out "you can hit out to 30km!" as a virtue of HAMs? If your intent is to stay out of point range, why would you ever risk that thin of a margin?

HAMs go on heavily tanked ships you intend to use to brawl with inside web/scram range. If you want to kite, use RLMs. If you want to "snipe" with missiles beyond 50km, fly something that can fit cruise launchers. Don't ever use HMLs, they're just really really bad.

"out to 30km" means you can hit long point kiters.
Soporo
#51 - 2013-08-03 01:20:22 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Soporo wrote:
Only one guy mentioned the Merlin Sad. Versatile, versatile, versatile.
It's a brawler or ranger and a good small gang boat. Dual web fit, blaster mse fit, autos and rockets even or rails and lm, etc. Ridiculously cheap too. I agree the Kestrel is also winsauce.


didn't the merlin get it's lauchers removed in the rebalance? And a hybrid damage buff so why use projectiles?


I personally prefered the pre-balanced merlin. maybe only flown it 3 times since.


I wasn't really thrilled with the changes to the merlin either. Basically made it the same as the incursus.

Now with the latest nerf it is basically a not so good incursus.


Yeah. I came back and was shocked to find all my Merlins missing their launchers.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken

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