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What Us Ice "Pubbies" Need to Do About "Goonswarm Shrugged"

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JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#101 - 2011-11-10 14:04:31 UTC
Option A there is no practical response to GS intifada against miners in which case GS are carebears who won't fight anything that might win.
Option B effectice tactics are economically unfeasible.
Pick one.

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Tjo Sephagen
Perkone
Caldari State
#102 - 2011-11-11 00:56:43 UTC
This is a fun thread. We're brainstorming!

I've spent a bit of time in Gallente ice belts recently, as several Goons in this thread will attest.

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Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2011-11-11 02:06:43 UTC
I cant think of many things more boring to do than mining ice just to break even on expenses
Scomarr
Doomheim
#104 - 2011-11-12 00:10:48 UTC
Occasionally we 'Pubbies' get lucky. Today, one of my alts killed a Goon who was foolish enough to attack a mining ship with drones deployed. The Goon Alpha'd me, but didn't take me out and gave my drones, and Concord, a precious few seconds to respond. Concord hit him as he killed my ship, but while that was happening, one of my drones got in a lucky last shot and killed him. We killed each other at the same time. I have a KM where I'm the killer, and a KM where I've been killed.

Frankly, the Goon who let a mere miner kill his ship should be kicked from the Goons, but that's for the Goons to decide.

That all being said, Well Done to the Goons for doing what they said they'd do, and meaning what they said. I have only respect for that.
Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#105 - 2011-11-12 06:51:21 UTC
Scomarr wrote:
Occasionally we 'Pubbies' get lucky. Today, one of my alts killed a Goon who was foolish enough to attack a mining ship with drones deployed. The Goon Alpha'd me, but didn't take me out and gave my drones, and Concord, a precious few seconds to respond. Concord hit him as he killed my ship, but while that was happening, one of my drones got in a lucky last shot and killed him. We killed each other at the same time. I have a KM where I'm the killer, and a KM where I've been killed.

Frankly, the Goon who let a mere miner kill his ship should be kicked from the Goons, but that's for the Goons to decide.

That all being said, Well Done to the Goons for doing what they said they'd do, and meaning what they said. I have only respect for that.


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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#106 - 2011-11-12 10:21:53 UTC
Fuujin wrote:
Scomarr wrote:
Occasionally we 'Pubbies' get lucky. Today, one of my alts killed a Goon who was foolish enough to attack a mining ship with drones deployed. The Goon Alpha'd me, but didn't take me out and gave my drones, and Concord, a precious few seconds to respond. Concord hit him as he killed my ship, but while that was happening, one of my drones got in a lucky last shot and killed him. We killed each other at the same time. I have a KM where I'm the killer, and a KM where I've been killed.

Frankly, the Goon who let a mere miner kill his ship should be kicked from the Goons, but that's for the Goons to decide.

That all being said, Well Done to the Goons for doing what they said they'd do, and meaning what they said. I have only respect for that.


Protip: you're marked as "final blow" if you did any damage/offensive action to a player who was killed by NPCs

If you remove the snarky parts that was a pretty shobon post.

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JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#107 - 2011-11-13 09:51:29 UTC
Any KM with a mining vessel is a win. Every KM with a mining vessel is a win. I mean I don't mine. But if you killed something with a hulk you win Eve. unequivocal. The only thing you have to fear is the man who got a kill in a Valator. For he hath balls of iron swaying gently tween his ankles...

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Lairne Tekitsu
DadTZ
#108 - 2011-11-13 21:38:13 UTC
thrulinn wrote:
SMT008 wrote:
thrulinn wrote:


Spoken like a true NNNNNOOOOOOBBBBBBB


The only people paying this noob alliance are the BOTS


Oh, you seems mad.

Sir, if you wish to enhance our customer service, please fill the form below and send it to a Goonwaffe Officer.



Best Regards.



In the 5 or 6 years playing this game, off and on, I have never seen a sorrier excuse of an alliance than I have now.
Even BOB was not as ignorant as you trying to pretend your a PVP alliance who's only skill is hitting miners that can not hit back.

Been considering playing the game again. Might still do so, Go back to making the ships every one will lose.


...Didn't the goons infiltrate and gut BoB?
Stahlregen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2011-11-13 22:53:11 UTC
Lairne Tekitsu wrote:
thrulinn wrote:
SMT008 wrote:
thrulinn wrote:


Spoken like a true NNNNNOOOOOOBBBBBBB


The only people paying this noob alliance are the BOTS


Oh, you seems mad.

Sir, if you wish to enhance our customer service, please fill the form below and send it to a Goonwaffe Officer.



Best Regards.



In the 5 or 6 years playing this game, off and on, I have never seen a sorrier excuse of an alliance than I have now.
Even BOB was not as ignorant as you trying to pretend your a PVP alliance who's only skill is hitting miners that can not hit back.

Been considering playing the game again. Might still do so, Go back to making the ships every one will lose.


...Didn't the goons infiltrate and gut BoB?


Exactly his point! Goons are physically incapable of PVP.

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN' WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY'S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN.

Tjo Sephagen
Perkone
Caldari State
#110 - 2011-11-14 02:13:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tjo Sephagen
Actually, any ganked miner who has drones out and set to aggressive will score a Goon KM. It's literally automatic. Mindless. Miners who do not get killmails are simply doing it wrong (e.g. no drones, not set to aggressive), or possibly their bot is ********.

The ice interdiction has cost Goons hundreds if not thousands of killmails. You belittle their PVP chops, fine. But how far would your alliance go for a critical strategic advantage? Would they suffer thousands of losses in a predictable sec-destroying meat-grinder over the course of months?

Anyone who doesn't see the ice interdiction as the game's single greatest player achievement has no perspective.
PegLegJack
Synthetic Solution
#111 - 2011-11-14 03:27:05 UTC
This thread makes me want to take my main out to mine and see how many goons I can beat and take
my alt out to see how many miners I can gank. Why don't we
just go do something else? Trying to outwit
each other is just too much fun.
SidtheKid100
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#112 - 2011-11-14 03:53:03 UTC
Tjo Sephagen wrote:

Anyone who doesn't see the ice interdiction as the game's single greatest player achievement has no perspective.


Even greater when they took out BoB?

Oh and
@OP: Nice try. Really. Nice try.Blink

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Fresnic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2011-11-22 21:39:18 UTC
Is it possible to do jet-can mining? Have a bunch of industrials or other smaller/faster ships with expanded cargoholds near the barge and aligned to different stations. Have a fleet of smaller cheaper ships that have tracking/warp disruptors orbiting further away from the barge to try and contain the goonswarm and give the other ships enough time to warp out.

I have no idea how long it takes for a mining barge, an industrial or other smaller ships to warp out once they're aligned. Less than 3 seconds? Would that be enough time?

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Destru Kaneda
Arzad Police Department
#114 - 2011-11-22 21:57:18 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Whats GSF ?


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