Ships & Modules

I was thinking a little bit - is there a reason, ever, not to equip something like a Damage Control II on your ship?

Are there any other grossly beneficial modules that are practical requirements for either PVE or PVP?

Should such strong modules continue to exist?

There's no need for sarcasm.

This is about examining why these sort of modules are so important, it's to look at the fundamental conceptions behind their necessity.

Is a ship that foregoes an AB/MWD in PVP viable? What sort of available alternative roles can you have if you dismiss using those modules?

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Carry on.

I don't know of any modules in eve that are mandatory.

Judging by the amount of fitted warp scramblers and disruptors should these come built-in.

I see a DCU as mandatory for me, because it saved my ships during disconnects several times. Just yesterday did I lose the connection to CCP twice (router shows nothing, Internet radio keeps playing, only the EVE client wants to quit/restart). Then sometimes is the connection stable for weeks. I am thankful for the DCU as I have played hardcore MMOs before I started with EVE and losing a hardcore character, because of a disconnect only sucks. So, thanks for DCUs!

I dont fit damage controls on mission boats because it's pointless. It'd be about as much use as a warp core stabilizer to those boats.

Different modules are mandatory when a specific function is to be discussed e.g. tackle - but that's only natural.

I never fit a DC II on anything smaller than a BC. One thing that is mandatory is faction. Always put faction on your ship. Don't be spacepoor.

Are you a CCP Dev-Spy?

Are you the guy responsible for nerfing the Invuln Field?? Huh??

Nope, there isnt a single mod thats to be found on every pvp ship, some fly without weapons (neutdomi), some fly without porpmods (nightmare/mael, gay gate hugging t1 cruiser), some fly without any tank (railenyo/arty wolf/lml condor) so not even a dcu, some fly without points (sov warfare blobs) and so on.

Some shiled tankers fly without invuls, some with invuls and without shield extenders.


There just isnt a single mod that you need to have on your ship.

A Damage Control in PvP is mandatory if
- You're shield tanked, cause a lowslot for even more shield resistances is awesome
-Your Structure has a significant amount of hitpoints and it is to assume that it will either allow you to keep repping/boosting while bleeding into structure, or that the structure buffer itself will buy you some seconds. A prime example for ships that NEED a Damage Control in PvP is Gallente ships. Their hull can make up for most of the EHP in some cases.

It is not mandatory, but also not wasted if

- Your Structure is so few hitpoints that it basically doesn't matter.



So: Yes, there are even PvP fits that don't necessarily need a Damage Control.
Some frigates have so few structure that you're better off by fitting more gank or an energized membrane instead of a DCU.
Or you know that the moment you start taking significant damage and can't warp you're going to be dead anyways, for example some Talwars don't use a Damage Control because having more speed is more beneficial.