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JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#21 - 2013-08-02 16:12:39 UTC
Bad Messenger wrote:
logi is always way to make sure enemy bring enough numbers to win your reps, so good way to get blobbed every time.


You've been hanging out with the Russians for too long and your English is suffering for it.

The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.
Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-08-02 17:02:25 UTC
Good logi are always wanted in any kind, and any size of fleet.
FuzzyButt
The Lazy Crabs
#23 - 2013-08-03 12:54:09 UTC
Logi is the key too every fight =)

PS, we are Recruiting people with logi trained <3 o/
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#24 - 2013-08-03 19:11:39 UTC
If your looking for real gold as a logi pilot train to fly them in the Incursions. You'll make far more ISK than running with any Fleet in a PvP Roam.
Sai Weisman
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-08-03 19:59:19 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
If your looking for real gold as a logi pilot train to fly them in the Incursions. You'll make far more ISK than running with any Fleet in a PvP Roam.


People looking to fly logi in PvP are most likely not looking to earn isk doing it.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#26 - 2013-08-03 21:03:15 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
JAF Anders wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
Depends on the faction and their commonly used fleet comps.

What I have noticed is In smaller cruiser gangs where everyone is running armour tanks, logi is great.
You will be very valuable to these fleets.
The logi has time to get reps on before too much of your main tank is eaten into.

The Gallente have this working very well.
They can broadcast reps when they see their shield being hit and this buys them a small time advantage before their main tank is eaten into. That extra few seconds seem to really make a lot of difference to the outcome of an engagement.

A few times I have been in fleets when Caldari have tried shield logi set ups and it really hasn't worked out.
By the time you broadcast for reps and they are applied a lot of the time you are already as good as dead.




Remember that Armor reps land at the end of the cycle whereas Shield reps land at the beginning, and that once the shields go down once and you remain targeted, the early-warning system is gone.

Food for thought.


Good point.

Someone above mentioned adding broadcast as a keyboard shortcut - that is a great idea and might really help buy a second or two for most people in the cluster fck of windows eve is.

We really need to get more experience using logi.
The Gallente have more experienced logi pilots too which really makes their effectiveness stand out.

Hopefully in time we can get it to flow - will be a few dead ospreys while we get it going but might be worth derping some isk to get decent at it.


Till then I'll keep saying - JAM THEIR LOGI BRO. Big smile



The main problem you people are having with your shield logi is not the behaviour of shield reps or that you don't have that thin layer of shields in front of your primary tank like armor ships do.
It's the fact that T1 shield logi are way more vulnerable than the armor variants.
Imo, especially the Scythe is really bad. If you fit it for EHP so your logi-bros can keep you alive, you're very, very vulnerable to ewar - in which case a single blackbird or celestis can ruin your whole fleet's day.
If you fit it up for ewar resilience, you're running either into serious fitting issues, or you drop on the tank side.
Therefor, you have to bring Ospreys as shield logi. And they still lack some ewar resilience, AND have the hazzle with the capchain - which is really killing ships in factional warfare ad-hoc fleets.
I have seen several ships explode because capchains needed to be setup instead of reps landing independantly.

I'd say, the Exequror is by far the most powerful T1 Logi, followed by the Augoror, and then a huge gap comes, with Osprey slightly ahead of the Scythe.

I'm still trying to eft Ospreys and Scythes i feel comfortable with in fleet situations that are not some out-of-the-box brawling Logi-only gang.
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