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Pattern Clarc
Citeregis
#481 - 2013-08-01 21:44:45 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Pattern Clarc wrote:
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Just giving an added reason WHY the Eos should get the Myrm hull.....

It doesn't even need to be explained. Eos = Myrmidon hull, don't care too much about the rest, end of story, that's all she wrote, period.

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Joxxy
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#482 - 2013-08-01 23:39:17 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:


That would (potentially) mean:

  • Eos would use the Myrm hull
  • Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
  • Abso would use the Harb hull
  • Nighthawk would use the Drake hull


    • Yes, yes and oh- YES!
    Travasty Space
    Pilots of Epic
    #483 - 2013-08-02 00:47:16 UTC
    Kel hound wrote:
    CCP Fozzie wrote:
    Cards on the table, the Sleipnir is the ship I have the greatest emotional attachment to of any ship in EVE. It would look great as a Hurricane, but it would also look DIFFERENT and that makes me feel confused feelings deep inside my heart.

    I also don't think this kind of change would be worthwhile unless we did all four and converted them into those specific hulls, since any deviation would make it harder for a new player trying to get information from their looks.

    So it's kinda an all or nothing deal, which is what makes it such a difficult question.



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    Sarkelias Anophius
    Aliastra
    Gallente Federation
    #484 - 2013-08-02 01:06:13 UTC
    CCP Fozzie wrote:
    This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.

    I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.

    It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.

    That would (potentially) mean:

  • Eos would use the Myrm hull
  • Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
  • Abso would use the Harb hull
  • Nighthawk would use the Drake hull

    • This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.

    So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?


    Absolutely yes.
    Sylvanium Orlenard
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #485 - 2013-08-02 03:20:27 UTC
    Yes, pls Yes, pls Yes, pls Yes.

    EOS in the Myrm hull = Priceless :D
    Moksa Elodie
    Hijo de la Luna
    #486 - 2013-08-02 03:49:17 UTC
    100% in favour of this
    Klingon Admiral
    Carcinisation
    #487 - 2013-08-02 05:17:49 UTC
    WTS Nighthawk - I can't stand the blandness that is called the Drake hull.
    Zhilia Mann
    Tide Way Out Productions
    #488 - 2013-08-02 05:59:55 UTC
    Klingon Admiral wrote:
    WTS Nighthawk - I can't stand the blandness that is called the Drake hull.


    This. If this all goes through I'm going to be extremely ******* pissed off.
    Coldtrace
    Cold Lords
    #489 - 2013-08-02 10:16:23 UTC
    Absolution and Nighthawk, they add a variety to the hulls I normally fly, don't do these changes!

    Why not give a choice on what racial BC hull to use and maybe what hull paint to go with it!

    Phoenix Jones
    Small-Arms Fire
    #490 - 2013-08-02 10:20:34 UTC
    Coldtrace wrote:
    Absolution and Nighthawk, they add a variety to the hulls I normally fly, don't do these changes!

    Why not give a choice on what racial BC hull to use and maybe what hull paint to go with it!



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    Vesan Terakol
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    Dark Taboo
    #491 - 2013-08-02 10:42:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Vesan Terakol
    I'd still say that Claymore should use the Hurricane hull as base, despite fielding missiles. I mean:

    http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100622011212/deadliestwarrior/images/1/14/2060gt-1-.jpg

    Doesn't the Hurricane happen to look like this?

    Edit: broken link.
    Kikusama
    Ministry of War
    Amarr Empire
    #492 - 2013-08-02 11:55:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Kikusama
    CCP Fozzie wrote:
  • Eos would use the Myrm hull
  • Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
  • Abso would use the Harb hull
  • Nighthawk would use the Drake hull

    • Eos should get it's old model back, with the moving beard thingie, but updated for V3.
    Sleipnir, Absolution and Nighthawk should keep their current models, to be honest.

    Command ships in general are ships that people are very attached to emotionally. As you well said, they'd be different and it'll make people that trained hard for them p. sad. The Hurricane hull deserves to be on its own, it's just as an iconic ship as the Sleipnir (as it is now). Same goes with the Harbinger.

    The Drake hull for a command ship is heresy imho. Yeap, you just trained for 1 year + to fly a different paintjob of a ship that everyone and their mother flew. Ew. Unless you make it black with red stripes (I think it was the Kalakiota or Ishukone Drake or something). Let's be honest, it doesn't scream "awesome". The Ferox hull amazingly fits the purpose, though.

    My sincere opinion - if you want to do something with the models, do what you did for the stealth bombers - variations on the same hull. It'll put the art department to work, but will actually give the Command Ships the aura of exclusivity they deserve.

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    Cyaron wars
    Academia RED HOT Corporation
    #493 - 2013-08-02 12:36:50 UTC
    CCP Fozzie wrote:
    This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.

    I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.

    It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.

    That would (potentially) mean:

  • Eos would use the Myrm hull
  • Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
  • Abso would use the Harb hull
  • Nighthawk would use the Drake hull

    • This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.

    So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?


    Don't u even think to touch Sleipnir hull.
    I know u had to nerf the hurricane to being useless , now turning sleipnir hull into hurricane isn't going to fool anyone that the cane is good again...
    Siempre Duskwraith
    Sebiestor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #494 - 2013-08-02 12:52:09 UTC
    Nighthawk -> Drake

    Please god no. Can we all just admit that as the dopey baby's first BC model is was ok, but this is pretty much bullshit. The drake model is god awful.

    I have an alt that uses the nighthawk to rat, this will be changing if this goes live.
    El Geo
    Warcrows
    THE OLD SCHOOL
    #495 - 2013-08-02 12:53:03 UTC
    Theodore Giumbix wrote:
    CCP Fozzie wrote:
    That would (potentially) mean:

  • Eos would use the Myrm hull
  • Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull
  • Abso would use the Harb hull
  • Nighthawk would use the Drake hull

    • This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.

    So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?


    This would actually make more sense.


    And speaking about things that makes sense, Caldari also needs some faction hybrid boats, we have enough missile/drone faction boats.
    - frigates: Caldari Navy Hookbill (missile) , Worm (missile & drones) , even tho Merlin is a hybrid boat
    - cruisers: Caracal Navy Issue (missile) , Osprey Navy Issue (missile) , Gila (missile&drones even tho the moa & eagle use hybrid guns)
    - battlecruisers: Drake Navy Issue (missile)
    - battleships: Raven Navy Issue (missile), Scorpion Navy Issue (missiles), Rattlesnake (missile&drones)

    How about some faction ferox/rokh hull boats with hybrid guns for caldari and change Gila to use hybrid guns too ?


    they could even do simple skins where the bonus's were switched over

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    Klingon Admiral
    Carcinisation
    #496 - 2013-08-02 13:09:42 UTC
    My issues with the Nighthawk besides, I am the only one who fears that CCP will fail hard at the Sarum shaders on a Harb? Just remember the old Pala, or currently the Pilgrim, which colors are rather "washed out". Oh the joy of strapping new shaders on now nearly six year old art assets ...

    So CCP, please, redesign the BCs next.
    Wanderer Larze
    Hunt and Salvage Inc.
    #497 - 2013-08-02 13:36:04 UTC
    Yes please, I trained into command ships but have yet to pick up a nighthawk because of the current model of the ship. I have always thought it should be the drake model. If this is changed I will finally pick one up to fly.
    Daniel Plain
    Doomheim
    #498 - 2013-08-02 13:46:17 UTC
    Klingon Admiral wrote:
    WTS Nighthawk - I can't stand the blandness that is called the Drake hull.

    let me take it from you. the space cardboard of death is gorgeous and i love it in the face all day every day.

    I should buy an Ishtar.
    Alsyth
    #499 - 2013-08-02 14:16:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Alsyth
    Just change the EOS to Myrm hull as you made a Navy Brutix and not a Navy Myrm, and everyone would enjoy a new ship based on Mymridon hull.

    Do not touch the other, someone who wants another Drake/Harbinger/Hurricane hull can just take the Faction one.

    Or if you touch them, add wings, new lights, antennas, or something like that as they all look too similar to the T1 hull apart from color, but don't change the base hull. Please. Or I will hate you forever for making Nighthawk, Sleipnir and Absolution (three of my favourite ships) ugly. Oops
    m3talc0re X
    The Motley Crew of Disorder
    The Gorram Shiney Alliance
    #500 - 2013-08-02 15:48:56 UTC
    It's funny, I suggested this before and got relatively no feedback...