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How do I know if I'm a Cyber Knight (or how do I choose it)?
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Kantar Selveta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-08-02 13:56:32 UTC
Hi everyone - I don't remember seeing the option to pick being a Cyber Knight during character creation, which I hear gives the best stat bonuses for Combat skills. Is this something you pick after you finish the career advancement missions? How do I find out if my character is a Cyber Knight or how/when do I pick that?
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#2 - 2013-08-02 14:03:50 UTC
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Hi everyone - I don't remember seeing the option to pick being a Cyber Knight during character creation, which I hear gives the best stat bonuses for Combat skills. Is this something you pick after you finish the career advancement missions? How do I find out if my character is a Cyber Knight or how/when do I pick that?

-1/10

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Kantar Selveta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-08-02 14:08:29 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Hi everyone - I don't remember seeing the option to pick being a Cyber Knight during character creation, which I hear gives the best stat bonuses for Combat skills. Is this something you pick after you finish the career advancement missions? How do I find out if my character is a Cyber Knight or how/when do I pick that?

-1/10

What?
Cauldron Asai
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-08-02 14:18:19 UTC
um I don't believe that just "combat skills" are going to carry you thru eve in the long term.. what I mean is you can have all the combat skills in the eve world you want. but no matter what . atleast from what I have seen you are going to need a wide range of skills. nav/science/social.ect that I think is why the -1/10 response . combat skills only help you with the. "pain" you can squeeze out of the mods.. they wont help you in how you apply said "pain". you might have seen the buy 10 t-1 frigs posts .really that is the hardcore truth. a skilled 10 year sp monster can and does lose to noobs who have a grasp of what they can do and just what they're adversary cannot

Cauldron
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-08-02 14:18:42 UTC
Cyber Knight? There are no classes in EVE and nothing anywhere in character creation gives any bonuses to any skills (other than race defining your starting skills), so no clue what you're talking about.
Kantar Selveta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-08-02 14:20:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Kantar Selveta
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Cyber Knight? There are no classes in EVE and nothing anywhere in character creation gives any bonuses to any skills (other than race defining your starting skills), so no clue what you're talking about.

There are hundreds of web pages and threads all over the place saying to select amarr -> khanid -> cyber knight to get the biggest starting perception/intelligence. I don't remember seeing anywhere to select Cyber Knight though, and furthermore I see a lot of threads saying you can start with things like Gunnery V when you select your bonus skills but I never got a chance to select those either, so I'm not sure when that happens or if I somehow missed it. It's hard to figure out what information is correct though because top google results for eve online range from 2006 all the way to current.
Celthon Drakken
#7 - 2013-08-02 14:24:37 UTC
Found this in the Eve Wiki, regarding Cyber Knights, if it helps:

Khanid (bloodline)
Kantar Selveta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-08-02 14:26:38 UTC
Celthon Drakken wrote:
Found this in the Eve Wiki, regarding Cyber Knights, if it helps:

Khanid (bloodline)


But how do you select Cyber Knight? Does it still give +3 per/+2 int? The last time I played this game a loooooong time ago you started with something like 800k skill points but I don't have anywhere near that much with this new character so i wasn't sure if I had to go through some process to get those starting skill points?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-08-02 14:27:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Kantar Selveta wrote:
There are hundreds of web pages and threads all over the place saying to select amarr -> khanid -> cyber knight to get the biggest starting perception/intelligence.


If there are, they're all very old and well out of date, as there are no bonuses to any attributes anywhere, anytime during character creation now and the only skills that vary by race are the starting frigate and weapon skills.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#10 - 2013-08-02 14:30:52 UTC
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Celthon Drakken wrote:
Found this in the Eve Wiki, regarding Cyber Knights, if it helps:

Khanid (bloodline)


But how do you select Cyber Knight? Does it still give +3 per/+2 int? The last time I played this game a loooooong time ago you started with something like 800k skill points but I don't have anywhere near that much with this new character so i wasn't sure if I had to go through some process to get those starting skill points?

There are no extra bonuses and there are no free skills by selecting one race or bloodline.

The race, bloodline and gender is all about appearance and RP.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Kantar Selveta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-08-02 14:31:56 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Celthon Drakken wrote:
Found this in the Eve Wiki, regarding Cyber Knights, if it helps:

Khanid (bloodline)


But how do you select Cyber Knight? Does it still give +3 per/+2 int? The last time I played this game a loooooong time ago you started with something like 800k skill points but I don't have anywhere near that much with this new character so i wasn't sure if I had to go through some process to get those starting skill points?

There are no extra bonuses, there are no free skills by selecting one race or bloodline.

The race, bloodline and gender is all about appearance and RP.


I see - is there a way to get bonus skill points during career advancement or anything like that? I have a character I created like 6 years ago that has 750k sp that I only played for 2 hours. It would suck if this new character I created (that I like the look/race of a lot more) would take 2-3 weeks to get caught up.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-08-02 14:34:55 UTC
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Is there a way to get bonus skill points during career advancement or anything like that?


No.
Cauldron Asai
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-08-02 14:39:15 UTC
iirc cyber knight was 1 of the base lines you could pick way back when.. I don't have a amarr char this time around.. but even then I don't recall ever getting "V" anything.

Cauldron
Kantar Selveta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-08-02 14:43:20 UTC
Cauldron Asai wrote:
iirc cyber knight was 1 of the base lines you could pick way back when.. I don't have a amarr char this time around.. but even then I don't recall ever getting "V" anything.

Cauldron

There are tons of links on google about how to choose cyber knight and get to Gunnery V as a starting skills. See this link for one example:

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Bloodlines:_The_Khanid

I guess none of this applies anymore? If so, a large majority of links for eve online (at least for starting creation) are wayyyy out of date now.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#15 - 2013-08-02 14:43:39 UTC
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Celthon Drakken wrote:
Found this in the Eve Wiki, regarding Cyber Knights, if it helps:

Khanid (bloodline)


But how do you select Cyber Knight? Does it still give +3 per/+2 int? The last time I played this game a loooooong time ago you started with something like 800k skill points but I don't have anywhere near that much with this new character so i wasn't sure if I had to go through some process to get those starting skill points?

There are no extra bonuses, there are no free skills by selecting one race or bloodline.

The race, bloodline and gender is all about appearance and RP.


I see - is there a way to get bonus skill points during career advancement or anything like that? I have a character I created like 6 years ago that has 750k sp that I only played for 2 hours. It would suck if this new character I created (that I like the look/race of a lot more) would take 2-3 weeks to get caught up.

Any plan in Eve that is less than 6 months is pure folly ;)

All new players get at least one free remap of their attributes, but in general, you shouldn't waste that until you know what you want (you'll regret wasting that remap if you stay).

If you like your new character, then stick to it, but check your old one for free SP and gifts ;)

As eve players we are notorious for min-maxing on everything, from skills to .01 isk increments on the market.

But unless you really know what you want the next 3-4 years, keep your options open.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Kantar Selveta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-08-02 14:47:06 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
Kantar Selveta wrote:
Celthon Drakken wrote:
Found this in the Eve Wiki, regarding Cyber Knights, if it helps:

Khanid (bloodline)


But how do you select Cyber Knight? Does it still give +3 per/+2 int? The last time I played this game a loooooong time ago you started with something like 800k skill points but I don't have anywhere near that much with this new character so i wasn't sure if I had to go through some process to get those starting skill points?

There are no extra bonuses, there are no free skills by selecting one race or bloodline.

The race, bloodline and gender is all about appearance and RP.


I see - is there a way to get bonus skill points during career advancement or anything like that? I have a character I created like 6 years ago that has 750k sp that I only played for 2 hours. It would suck if this new character I created (that I like the look/race of a lot more) would take 2-3 weeks to get caught up.

Any plan in Eve that is less than 6 months is pure folly ;)

All new players get at least one free remap of their attributes, but in general, you shouldn't waste that until you know what you want (you'll regret wasting that remap if you stay).

If you like your new character, then stick to it, but check your old one for free SP and gifts ;)

As eve players we are notorious for min-maxing on everything, from skills to .01 isk increments on the market.

But unless you really know what you want the next 3-4 years, keep your options open.


I don't remember getting to select any attributes in the first place? At what point do you even choose your attributes or how do you even remap them?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-08-02 15:00:31 UTC
You don't get to choose attributes. Attributes and skills are fixed for a new character, the only things that differ are which frigate and small weapon skills you get.

You can remap them by opening character sheet, selecting attributes and clicking the remap button.
Kantar Selveta
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-08-02 15:04:35 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
You don't get to choose attributes. Attributes and skills are fixed for a new character, the only things that differ are which frigate and small weapon skills you get.

You can remap them by opening character sheet, selecting attributes and clicking the remap button.


I see. Thanks for all the help. I'll dig into this more when I get home and log back in, and try to do some skill planning to decide how to remap my attributes. I played Eve for a couple years but not since maybe 2006, so my knowledge is way out of date and I forget most everything anyway, but I am 100% sure that 99% of my playtime will be combat related.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#19 - 2013-08-02 15:08:42 UTC
Side note: Training is much faster now than it used to be. you used to have to train learning skills for ages before it was worth training anything. now that's not the case, so you shouldn't need to spend weeks catching up. You can be PvP viable in well under a week, though obviously you will lack in core skills and would be likely to lose. But less likely to lose than a character of the same age on the old system.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#20 - 2013-08-02 15:09:45 UTC
Kantar Selveta wrote:


but I am 100% sure that 99% of my playtime will be combat related.

That's what you think now.
Soon you'll realise that your combat will need some cash, and that's when the sirens of the dark side will kick in.

Why grind boring pve stuff or abuse that piece of plastic when you can make isk while you sleep doing trading ;)

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
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