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Gnosis Fits : Substitute Instacane

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Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-02 03:11:15 UTC
What are your favourite fits for the Gnosis battlecruiser? I would like to use one as a substitute for an instacane, but the omni resists and generous slot layout tempt me to add a bit of shield tank to it. What do you think would be a good trade-off of Sensor Boosters, Tracking Computers, and shield modules? Post your fits!

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xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#2 - 2013-08-02 10:32:47 UTC
[Gnosis, insta]

Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Signal Amplifier II
Tracking Enhancer II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Warrior II x15

Statistics

Effective HP: 48,443 (Eve: 48,442)


Capacitor (Lasts 4m 40s)

Volley Damage: 3,238.15
DPS: 280.10


991 scan res before links. With some tank. Signal amp can be dropped for another TE dropping scan res to 912.

I tried to work on an armor one and just couldnt get a decent plate on it,
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#3 - 2013-08-02 10:38:10 UTC
what is an insta cane?

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.

Whitehound
#4 - 2013-08-02 10:50:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Whitehound
Ottersmacker wrote:
what is an insta cane?

Very fast locking combined with high alpha damage.

Before you know it will your ship explode and you go "WTF?" and then realize it was an Instacane.

It is short for Instant and Hurricane (the ship).

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-08-02 11:58:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
Lyris Nairn wrote:
What are your favourite fits for the Gnosis battlecruiser? I would like to use one as a substitute for an instacane, but the omni resists and generous slot layout tempt me to add a bit of shield tank to it. What do you think would be a good trade-off of Sensor Boosters, Tracking Computers, and shield modules? Post your fits!



Thing is with this ship half of your bonus goes straight to drones, and what heck of half one = 50% drones health and dmg !!

But with only 50m3 it's a bit tricky to find a good compromise so I took the average case of insta cane shooting in between 40 to 80km with decent dps and alpha and got out with this:

[Gnosis, InstaGnocki ]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Garde II x2 or Bouncer II (dps difference if you intend to shoot further than 50km is significant)

Spare fittings left with all T2 fitted stats are following on EFT (assuming no bug with version whatsoever)


547 DPS for 3298 guns Alpha with Republic Fleet Phased plasma at 21+40km and Gardes II

420 DPS for 2199 guns Alpha with Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot at 41+40km and Bouncers II

396 DPS for 1912 guns Alpha with Tremor at 74+40km and Bouncers II

EFT doesn't account drones alpha on top of guns but only dps X

912.9 Sensor strgth and targeting range 100km before fleet bonus

1088m/s and 1556m/s OH

31.65K EHP (which is already double from naked instance and a better resist profile)

No implants, combat boosters, fleet/gang bonus accounted for these numbers.

You might also do it a-la insta-naked-cane and take away the shield rigs for guns tracking and targeting speed the only numbers changing are EHP but still 35% on top of naked Cane without any effort whatsoever.

The fact droen bay is so small doesn't offer many options for drones because with 6lows and mids if this thing had 300m3of drones would be a pure gank beast, so it's fine for specific gaming like bble camping, gate camping and the moment you can get static because :sentries:
For fleets and roaming gangs might work but since 50% of your dps comes from drones you will not be able to apply 100% dmg 100% of roaming time.

You should actually go for insta SFI, the +10% tracking bonus full of gyros SA DCU and mids of SBs prop mod gives you a nice wooping 2300alpha (300ish dps) is far mobile and you still have enough drone bay to field some dishonor drones or dps ones to assign logis or ceptors, is faster and agile and also smaller sign/align but by far worst resist profile.

Just an opinion.


Edit: of course you want the following in your cargo: Hail Tremor RF EMP+Phased Plasma Titanium Sabot and Depleted Uranium

No need for range targeting scripts unless you want to scratch paint at over 100km (cane far better to shoot until 140 with decent alpha), carry tracking sctipts adn eventually unscript your tracking computers when using SR ammo to add extra range and tracking, up to taste.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-08-02 13:00:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
This one is still my favorite, I'll let you paste it in to your EFT to figure the numbers and tweak at will Lol

[Gnosis, Gnocky III]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
[empty high slot]

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hornet EC-300 x5
Hammerhead II x5

Wut Wut


850DPS with CN AM, yeah SR is SR but for sure it will be a much better HAC than those we're being thrown at our face.

EDIT because it's really worth of: It's a rookie ship pushing better EHP/DPS stats than current hacs miles away and probably still better than future HACs, at least on paper but of course it's not a fleet ship.

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Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#7 - 2013-08-02 15:34:37 UTC
Whitehound wrote:
Ottersmacker wrote:
what is an insta cane?

Very fast locking combined with high alpha damage.

Before you know it will your ship explode and you go "WTF?" and then realize it was an Instacane.

It is short for Instant and Hurricane (the ship).

Looks more like a DFASCane with that tremendous 4k alpha

It is short for Don't Fly A Shuttle and Hurricane (the ship)

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.

Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#8 - 2013-08-02 16:01:08 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
This one is still my favorite, I'll let you paste it in to your EFT to figure the numbers and tweak at will Lol

[Gnosis, Gnocky III]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
[empty high slot]

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hornet EC-300 x5
Hammerhead II x5

Wut Wut


850DPS with CN AM, yeah SR is SR but for sure it will be a much better HAC than those we're being thrown at our face.

EDIT because it's really worth of: It's a rookie ship pushing better EHP/DPS stats than current hacs miles away and probably still better than future HACs, at least on paper but of course it's not a fleet ship.


Triple TI invul is literally awful.

Also have fun applying any of that damage without a web.

Also have fun coming across anything with a Neut.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-08-02 18:25:14 UTC
Ottersmacker wrote:
what is an insta cane?

"Instacane" is a portmanteau of "instant" and "hurricane," referring to an Artillery setup with the Hurricane battlecruiser. Prior to the severe nerfs given to that ship's native scan resolution, a Hurricane with 3 × Sensor Booster II with Scan Resolution Scripts could have a scan resolution of over 1,200. This allowed the Hurricane to be an excellent gate camp ship, or fleet anti-support ship, since it could lock targets extremely quickly and pelt them with very high damage in a single shot. Medium artillery still allows the Hurricane to strike at decent range and for high damage against small targets, but the Hurricane now has much lower native scan resolution. The Gnosis, having both a superior native scan resolution and slot layout, looks like it could perform the roles of an Instacane very well.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#10 - 2013-08-02 21:25:29 UTC
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